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    Too much animal protein linked to increased diabetes risk | Fox News

    what say ye?

    My first reaction is 'bullshit'...but that's just based on personal experience (not long term, admittedly) and so much positive real results for HELPING people WITH diabetes....

    discuss.
    My blog: http://www.againstthegrain.us/

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    Originally posted by Gwen View Post
    Too much animal protein linked to increased diabetes risk | Fox News

    what say ye?

    My first reaction is 'bullshit'...but that's just based on personal experience (not long term, admittedly) and so much positive real results for HELPING people WITH diabetes....

    discuss.
    Another crap article based on loose correlations.

    But, the funny part with this one is that the difference is actually quite small. The people who consumed the MOST animal protein only got Diabetes 17% more often than those in the LEAST quintile. That's not much, considering how many cofounders usually go along with eating lots of meat. (obesity, smoking, inactivity).

    Honestly, the age of correlation based "science" articles sickens me. But it's here to stay, because it gets people to click on the article.

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    • #3
      There are just too many possible unknown variables for this study to be conclusive. For example: what else was being consumed by the study subjects along with the high protein intake, adherence, accuracy of reporting, the source and quality of the meats and dairy, stress level, genetic predisposition, etc.

      Yet, Dr. Hu, who was not even involved with the said study advocates for consuming nuts, legumes and whole grains in order to minimize the risk of developing diabetes. I'm somehow not following the logic there.

      "The association between animal protein and diabetes risk appeared to be strongest among obese women."

      I highly doubt the animal protein alone could have caused obesity in those women. Also, high animal sourced protein does not equate high fat.

      Anyway, I don't think consistent high consumption of muscle meat is a good idea, and don't eat much of it and often, but not for the reasons they point out.
      Last edited by Graycat; 04-15-2014, 09:13 AM.

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      • #4
        Former type 2 chiming in. I have always eaten animal proteins, even when I was eating tons of processed stuff. Once I cleaned up the crap from my diet(with more animal proteins) and got in some movement, viola! no more Type 2 diabetes.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gwen View Post
          My first reaction is 'bullshit'...but
          Go with your first reaction.

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          • #6
            Correlation is not causation!
            My opinions and some justification

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            • #7
              Ha! I'm learning. Reading up a lot today on epidemiological studies. veddy interesting.
              My blog: http://www.againstthegrain.us/

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              • #8
                Yeah, is that "high animal protein diets in isolation," or "high animal protein diets with processed grains (especially wheat), seed oils, and lots of sugar?"

                Also, exercise? Lifestyle factors? And does animal protein include gelatin sources? Gelatin is known to be protective, so it could confound results.
                "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                • #9
                  Right off the bat, I noticed they kept mentioning 'processed meats', which in and of itself was a big red flag. Even still, yep, I'm still learning how to decipher studies...let alone the fact of who might be funding them.
                  My blog: http://www.againstthegrain.us/

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                  • #10
                    Folks with metabolic syndrome have trouble with energy production and increased appetite for everything ya? Choosing to spotlight one nutrient seems arbitrary without some deeper analysis.
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                    • #11
                      Horrible study. You might be able to access it here: Sign In

                      They break it down by gender and country, and it's all over the place. No real pattern at all.

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                      • #12
                        well, not a member, and not going to pay for becoming one. But thanks.
                        My blog: http://www.againstthegrain.us/

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                        • #13
                          Also, they state in the main figure legend that the data are NOT adjusted for carbohydrate intake. Which I suspect would also correlate.

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                          • #14
                            As a "prediabetic type 2" I have been watching my diet and checking to see what get's my blood sugar's up. I can tell you that my levels go into the normal range when I eat a meat and greens diet! If I add fruits or anything slightly sweet I can watch it climb. Diet change and exercise will keep me in the normal range.

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                            • #15
                              this again?
                              As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                              Ernest Hemingway

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