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    I know a young woman who is dying of a brain tumor. She has three kids--the youngest isn't even two years old yet. Her life could be mine in so many ways, and every time I think of her I weep at the idea that something similar could happen to me, and my kids might not even really remember me after I died.

    I started living primal to lose weight, but read a lot about it, and believed it was the healthiest lifestyle, too. I remember reading things about how being in ketosis helped cancer to stop/shrink, because cancer cells fed on sugar. Not sure if that's accurate, I skim a lot of heavy science because I don't usually have time/quiet to concentrate when reading.

    Do you believe a primal/paleo diet can prevent cancer? If so, how does it work? Is it simply because we eschew processed foods, and by eliminating toxins we're eliminating the majority of causes of cancer? Is it because cancer feeds on sugar, and many (though not all) paleo people eat a low-sugar diet? Is it because there are cancer-fighting properties in quality foods, and most primal eaters choose nutritious food?

    I know this is not a one-size-fits-all question. I know there are a lot of variables at play here. I guess I'm just looking for answers to, perhaps, an unanswerable question...
    Female, 40 yrs old, 5', 120 lbs (post-pregnancy)
    Went Primal January 2, 2012!

    Paleo Cooking for Cavekids cookbook

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    Some cancers seem to respond to low-glucose environments, others don't. I'm sure someone knows more specifics.
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    • #3
      Here's a woman who's using a keto diet to attempt to slow / stop her brain tumor.

      Low-carb, high-fat ketogenic diet used by brain cancer patient to treat tumor - National Celebrity Fitness and Health | Examiner.com

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      • #4
        Polyunsaturated fat (especially arachidonic acid) tends to promote cancer while stearic acid and connective tissue tend to inhibit cancer. Primal diets tend to have more saturated fat, less polyunsaturated fat, and more connective tissue, so this should inhibit cancer.

        Except for brain cancer, I don't buy the whole "ketosis fights cancer" idea. Even in ketosis, blood sugar is maintained.
        My opinions and some justification

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        • #5
          It's not so much ketosis is the answer (or even that ketosis is primal). It's that our current diet of processed foods, refined grains and seed oils is weakening, sickening and killing us from all fronts. A diet of real food keeps our bodies stronger, healthier and able to fight cancer cells that begin to form.

          As far as curing a brain tumor, anything that keeps you stronger rather than weakening you can only help, but don't fool yourself. A brain tumor is serious business and changing your diet isn't going to be a miracle cure.
          Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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          • #6
            I'm wondering the same thing while feeling quite confident that a diet consisting of whole, unprocessed foods as they are found in nature will only better our attempt at prevention as well as boost our overall health and our body's ability to fight it if, in fact, we do find out we have it. I don't think it's just wishful thinking, either. Less poison = less cellular damage and the craziness that ensues. That's just my take on it, anyway.

            I'm planning on going with a ketogenic approach (in addition to all kinds of other fun stuff) if I find myself dealing with it, and thankfully, the LC w.o.e agrees with my body more than anything else ever has.

            I'm so very sorry about your friend and her poor babies, that is just heartbreaking. They will be in my prayers, as will you.
            Life is not a matter of having good cards, but of playing a poor hand well.

            - Robert Louis Stevenson

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            • #7
              We all actually get cancer all the time, and then our bodies take care of it right away. We are designed to naturally fight cancer, and properly nourished bodies will have the easiest time of it.

              There is nothing cancer-promoting about eating actual food. Especially when you are wise and make it a point to regularly meet or exceed all the currently known micronutrients. If you are actually eating your eggs, berries, fruit, veggies and quality meats and the like, then your cells will have all the building blocks to crush that cancer the day it starts, and you'll never even know it happened!

              Of course, there are people genetically predisposed, and they ought to focus all the more on these real food ways of eating.

              If I got detectable tumors today, they might be from the years I spent in the paint shop four years ago, from all the other weird chemicals my body has absorbed over the years - the factors are too many to count. By all means, I should have cancer by now based on all the really weird chemicals my skin has absorbed and the years I spent wandering homeless in the sunlight eating fast food and sporting a non-stop red sunburn that just peeled all day every day. Or the special "zero contact with human skin EVER" chemicals that I have had contact with repeatedly. It's all a roll of the dice.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
                We all actually get cancer all the time, and then our bodies take care of it right away. We are designed to naturally fight cancer, and properly nourished bodies will have the easiest time of it.

                There is nothing cancer-promoting about eating actual food. Especially when you are wise and make it a point to regularly meet or exceed all the currently known micronutrients. If you are actually eating your eggs, berries, fruit, veggies and quality meats and the like, then your cells will have all the building blocks to crush that cancer the day it starts, and you'll never even know it happened!

                Of course, there are people genetically predisposed, and they ought to focus all the more on these real food ways of eating.

                If I got detectable tumors today, they might be from the years I spent in the paint shop four years ago, from all the other weird chemicals my body has absorbed over the years - the factors are too many to count. By all means, I should have cancer by now based on all the really weird chemicals my skin has absorbed and the years I spent wandering homeless in the sunlight eating fast food and sporting a non-stop red sunburn that just peeled all day every day. Or the special "zero contact with human skin EVER" chemicals that I have had contact with repeatedly. It's all a roll of the dice.
                Yup. The whole ketosis fights cancer stuff is just not true. There are also n=1 stories of veganism curing diseases...but at the end of the day, it's pretty much all BS.
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                • #9
                  Thanks for the thoughts. I understand that, well, there's no SINGLE direct cause of cancer. If only it were that simple.

                  I guess I've been wrestling with this a lot lately. Another friend of mine who has spent her adult life trying to eat right and feed her kids right has recently thrown up her hands and basically said, "Whatever." She knows people who are athletes and "healthy" eaters (based on CW), and now they're being diagnosed with various health conditions. She's like, "Why try when it's all a craps shoot?"

                  I guess some of it is my age. I'm turning 40 in a week (!!!!!), and all my friends are around my age, and so I guess I'm going to start seeing a lot more of us get sick or weaker or whatever as time goes on. We're at an age where cancer is still uncommon, but not unheard of. (My Dad is 73 and is always sadly talking about how his friends are dying off).

                  I sometimes think that trying to get proper nutrition is a little like trying to control something that is uncontrollable. Futile, but gives us a feeling of power.

                  Then there are other times I live by the philosophy: Life's a craps shoot. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't play the odds.

                  Anyway, thanks for letting me ramble. I know there aren't any answers really. I'm just looking for thoughts and ideas.
                  Female, 40 yrs old, 5', 120 lbs (post-pregnancy)
                  Went Primal January 2, 2012!

                  Paleo Cooking for Cavekids cookbook

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                  • #10
                    My advice to anyone searching for answers about cancer and nutrition is to do your own research. I used this site as the starting point but most of the cancer threads here just devolve into major sh!tfests. Different kinds of cancers are different. When you research focus on the type of cancer you are interested in knowing about. There are great forums for specific types of cancers that are moderated by people who actually know something about the type of cancer involved. I found those to be far more helpful getting information. But here I have gotten wonderful emotional support.

                    From what I have read, cancer and nutrition research is still in its infancy. To make definitive statements one way or the other is premature. Everyone needs to do their own research and make their own decisions.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TQP View Post
                      Yup. The whole ketosis fights cancer stuff is just not true. There are also n=1 stories of veganism curing diseases...but at the end of the day, it's pretty much all BS.
                      Ketosis very well might be an answer to fight very specific types of cancer. The research is very young, but there is definitely potential.

                      Now, that doesn't mean that living a ketosis based lifestyle will raise or lower your rate of cancer, just that ketogenic diets have shown the ability to slow the growth on certain tumors. That's it. But to write it all off as "bs" is a bit short sighted.

                      Couple examples:

                      The Ketogenic Diet for Cancer

                      http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/co...1/13/4484.full

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                      • #12
                        If you are only 40 and you are starting to feel your mortality what you really need is a long walk in the wilderness. That'll remind you that you are young and vital and the world is a beautiful place. When I was 43 and 44 I spent two summers hiking the Pacific Crest Trail. It's the best thing I ever did. Not just for the wilderness and myself but for the wonderful, vital and alive people I met from all walks of life and all ages. All of them, whether just out of high school or in their 70s or 80s, were out there living life to the fullest. Not one of them threw up their hands and said "I give up." Even if that sort of thing is not the life for you, everyone could stand a change in perspective now and then.
                        Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                        • #13
                          "cancer" is very vague.

                          Will a primal diet protect you from excessive exposure to radiation that leads to cancer? No.

                          Will a primal diet protect you from environmental pollutant exposure that leads to cancer? No.

                          Will a primal diet prevent that one single botched cell division that generates a cancerous cell that continues to replicate? No.

                          Could a primal diet reduce your risk of developing SOME types of cancer? Insufficient data.
                          -Ryan Mercer my blog and Genco Peptides my small biz

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                            If you are only 40 and you are starting to feel your mortality what you really need is a long walk in the wilderness. That'll remind you that you are young and vital and the world is a beautiful place. When I was 43 and 44 I spent two summers hiking the Pacific Crest Trail. It's the best thing I ever did. Not just for the wilderness and myself but for the wonderful, vital and alive people I met from all walks of life and all ages. All of them, whether just out of high school or in their 70s or 80s, were out there living life to the fullest. Not one of them threw up their hands and said "I give up." Even if that sort of thing is not the life for you, everyone could stand a change in perspective now and then.
                            Thank you. You're probably right about this.
                            Female, 40 yrs old, 5', 120 lbs (post-pregnancy)
                            Went Primal January 2, 2012!

                            Paleo Cooking for Cavekids cookbook

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