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  • Whaddya MEAN potato chips are bad?!

    OK, I know they are not the best choice....but potatoes aren't terrible and saturated fats aren't the devil.

    So if you're wanting a bit of a less than Primal treat, wouldn't potato chips be a suitable choice?

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    I don't eat them any more, mainly I think because of the kind of fat they're cooked in. But when I do get the urge, since beets and sweet potatoes are obviously better than regular potatoes, I will buy the "Tarro" brand of natural chips made from exotic vegetables, or sweet potatoes and beets. Man, they're good.
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    • #3
      Potatoes aren't primal, and potato chips are full of crap anyways. Terra is a better choice but they use vegetable oil.
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      • #4
        Well, white potatoes in particular are most definitely not primal, and most potato chips you find are going to be fried in vegetable oil. If you could find chips fried in tallow or lard then you'd have some good saturated fat at least, but you're not getting any from regular old potato chips! You could try making your own sweet potato chips fried in tallow or lard, that actually sounds pretty delicious

        And with all that said, you can do whatever the heck you want to with your 20%, so if you just have to eat a snack sized back of potato chips with your lunch one day it's not going to kill you. The gross oils in Lay's and any of the others might hurt your tummy though (they definitely hurt mine), so you might not do it more than a couple of times anyway.
        You are what you eat,
        and what you eat eats too - Michael Pollan

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        • #5
          yes, the oils most (all>?) chip brands use are highly unstable seed or soy oils.....and basically cause cancer and raise your small dense LDL count. And, while you could say potatoes are less offensive than wheat grain, they are still nutritionally inferior to sweet potatoes and japanese yams. And, having a bag of potato chips laying around the house is just asking for your carb intake to go up.

          Bottom line, there are much better things to eat. like a steak!

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          • #6
            I definitely prefer sweet potatoes over white (or red), however I still eat regular potatoes about once a week and don't consider it part of my 80/20 rule. I side with FreeTheAnimal on the potato issue.

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            • #7
              I think homemade ones are a perfectly reasonable food, if you've got room for the carbs on a given day. I ate maybe half a serving of conventional franken-oil chips a few weeks back and didn't feel terribly guilty about it.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by hannahc View Post
                The gross oils in Lay's and any of the others might hurt your tummy though (they definitely hurt mine), so you might not do it more than a couple of times anyway.
                I never even thought about how the grease was going to make the tummy feel! I'm sensitive stomached to begin with (which is why I've gone this route) and since all the fresh and whole foods, I doubt very much my stomach would appreciate the visitor.

                I'm also fairly new to PB (mostly paying lots of attention to the No Grains part at the moment) and not quite up on all the oil information yet....nor did I realize that potatoes are not primal.

                Thanks for the info, all.

                PS. I didn't bring the chips home, The Boyfriend and his son brought a person-sized bag of them home from a recent camping trip. I tried to throw them out but I got caught....same with the giant Costco muffins and the two paper sacks full of cookies. It's a challenge living my life at the moment!

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                • #9
                  You are joking, right? You want to dump that much starch into your body and trigger the insulin fat-storage response?

                  It's not the saturated fats. It's the potatoes.
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                  • #10
                    The way potato chips are processed is disgusting. The potatoes go through a series of dehydrations, heatings, and liquifications until they are nothing but paste. The paste is spread into sheets and the chips are cut out from it. These chips are then cooked at high heats in trays of oil that might be several days old.

                    If you want to make your own potato chips I would say go ahead, they have the potential to be very healthly. But commercial potato chips are one of the last things I would put in my body.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Myvstar1100 View Post
                      I'm also fairly new to PB (mostly paying lots of attention to the No Grains part at the moment) and not quite up on all the oil information yet....nor did I realize that potatoes are not primal.
                      Well sweet potatoes are considered Primal, although it is recommended not to eat them very frequently. I do eat potatoes about once a week, and sweet potatoes 2-3 times a week (I buy huge sweet potatoes and eat a half of one or so at a time, steamed).

                      Nutritionally, sweet potatoes are superior to white potatoes, but I think it depends on the person. I prefer sweet potatoes but I do eat potatoes and don't consider it part of my 80/20 rule. Although some may whine over it, I consider potatoes Paleo foods. If milk and cream can be Paleo, so can potatoes. But it's more about your goals. If you're trying to lose fat, then I would avoid white potatoes altogether.

                      http://freetheanimal.com/2010/04/one...-potatoes.html -- FreeTheAnimal post about the potatoe issue and Paleo-eating.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Griff View Post
                        You are joking, right? You want to dump that much starch into your body and trigger the insulin fat-storage response?

                        It's not the saturated fats. It's the potatoes.
                        the oils used to fry them are unsaturated, and unstable in the blood. they can oxidize and that is what increases your small, dense LDL count, and that is what causes arteries to harden, and thus, heart disease. So yes, its not saturated fats, but rather cottonseed oil, soy oil, vegetable oils etc that are what we're referring to. But thats a bit of oil info for Myvstar1100. Its in the section of Marks book "How to sneeze at heart disease" and Pollan has also investigated the science behind seed and soy oils used in frying things like chips and such. They are one of the worst things you can put in your body.

                        And, I think potatos are a grey area. rplslv will probably not agree, but then again I think he is on the more strict side of the PB than
                        any of us! Tubers were available to ancient man, that is a fact, and In the book Mark specifically says that Grok probably ate starchy tubers. But, we all know Grok was way more active than we are, and there is really no need to eat white potatoes, when yams are a much better option. But, If you were to eat them, I would not consider it unprimal, as grok ate starchy tubers. And, I also advise you to keep throwing away that crappy food !

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by lmyers04 View Post
                          the oils used to fry them are unsaturated, and unstable in the blood. they can oxidize and that is what increases your small, dense LDL count, and that is what causes arteries to harden, and thus, heart disease. So yes, its not saturated fats, but rather cottonseed oil, soy oil, vegetable oils etc that are what we're referring to. But thats a bit of oil info for Myvstar1100. Its in the section of Marks book "How to sneeze at heart disease" and Pollan has also investigated the science behind seed and soy oils used in frying things like chips and such. They are one of the worst things you can put in your body.

                          And, I think potatos are a grey area. rplslv will probably not agree, but then again I think he is on the more strict side of the PB than
                          any of us! Tubers were available to ancient man, that is a fact, and In the book Mark specifically says that Grok probably ate starchy tubers. But, we all know Grok was way more active than we are, and there is really no need to eat white potatoes, when yams are a much better option. But, If you were to eat them, I would not consider it unprimal, as grok ate starchy tubers. And, I also advise you to keep throwing away that crappy food !
                          ^^This. Great post and definitely the way that I see the issue. Too many people getting butthurt just because they are physically inferior (EDIT) and can't handle what others can to maintain their goals. I don't have a weight problem, I'm not diabetic and potatoes fit right in with me, my goals and I consider them a paleo food.

                          Yes I said that.
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                          • #14
                            Right, but the OP was saying "all those saturated fats" and my point is that it's not the saturated fats that are the problem (regardless of whether they're attached to potato chips or not is not the point) - it's the potatoes that are the problem. Perhaps I wasn't clear.

                            I don't agree with the idea that tubers are safe things for human beings to eat. If they were, we could eat them raw. We can't.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Griff View Post
                              Right, but the OP was saying "all those saturated fats" and my point is that it's not the saturated fats that are the problem (regardless of whether they're attached to potato chips or not is not the point) - it's the potatoes that are the problem. Perhaps I wasn't clear.

                              I don't agree with the idea that tubers are safe things for human beings to eat. If they were, we could eat them raw. We can't.
                              Then why do we have amylase in our saliva.
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