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    Hi all I'm eating around 90-100g of protein daily, I read that unused protein is converted to carbs in the body can that be correct? I'm either strength training or running daily so hopefully the protein is helping rebuild muscle, I just don't want to shot myself in the foot by inadvertently taking in more carbs through protein.

    Thanks,
    Matt

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    Hi, Matt. If you're not an 80-lb girl, that's probably not enough protein. Are you trying to achieve ketosis? Otherwise, protein is damn hard to overeat, especially from the kinds of sources included in a try Primal or Paleo diet.
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    • #3
      ^ What he said

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      • #4
        Too much protein?

        Nah. Gluconeogenesis shouldn't be a concern for you at those protein numbers.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by turquoisepassion View Post
          Nah. Gluconeogenesis shouldn't be a concern for you at those protein numbers.
          Fixed that for ya ;-)

          I agree. If anything, you probably should be eating more protein since it sounds like you're pretty active. Don't worry about gluconeogenesis in the slightest. That's only a concern if you're trying to maintain ketosis, really.

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          • #6
            Too much protein?

            Ugh sorry for the embarrassing typo. XD longggg day.

            Thanks
            Last edited by turquoisepassion; 01-15-2014, 03:55 PM.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by turquoisepassion View Post
              Ugh sorry for the embarrassing typo. XD longggg day.

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              • #8
                Thanks for the comments guys, that's put my mind at rest somewhat but now I've got to ask how much protein should I be looking at daily? I'm around 200 pounds currently, still with body fat to loose so would like ketosis where possible.

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                • #9
                  you're an active guy of normal size? even 150 would be on the low end for you.

                  i'm only 5'2" and most days get between 80-100 gms.
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                  • #10
                    I don't know your height, but I'd say at least double your current protein intake.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jefferson1775 View Post
                      I don't know your height, but I'd say at least double your current protein intake.
                      I'll concur that doubling your current levels is a good start.
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                      • #12
                        In my opinion, if your carbohydrates are so low that your body creates glucose from the protein you eat, who cares? Your body knows what it needs and can provide.

                        But better to do that from dietary protein and not from your own musculature! So eat your protein. Eat as much of it as you can.
                        Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                        • #13
                          Seriously though, that is what should be normal for most people. It's low if your trying to put muscle on.

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                          • #14
                            Really? Wow thanks guys - I'm glad I asked

                            I'm 6 foot tall so it sounds like I need to ramp up the protein pronto, can I run you what I eat through my typical day for some suggestions of where I can improve?

                            Breakfast - 3 egg and cheese omelette or 4 bacon and 2 poached eggs
                            Lunch - Whey protein shake after exercise (50g protein)
                            Evening Meal - Meat/Fish with steamed vegetables

                            One quick gain that comes to mind is an extra scoop of whey protein shake for lunch (25g protein per scoop) would that be beneficial? Is powdered protein close to the real deal?

                            My short-term goals are to lose body fat, gain muscle and to feel happier and healthier with every passing day (so far so good). As I say I'm training for my first marathon in April 3/4 days a week, then strength training 3 days also so muscle repair/improvement is probably the main aim.

                            Thank you so much for your help!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                              Hi, Matt. If you're not an 80-lb girl, that's probably not enough protein. Are you trying to achieve ketosis? Otherwise, protein is damn hard to overeat, especially from the kinds of sources included in a try Primal or Paleo diet.
                              Just as a side note, proteins and ketosis are not incompatible actually
                              You can read a few good articles about it at caloriesproper.com, for example this one: Dietary protein, ketosis, and appetite control. | The poor, misunderstood calorie

                              Gluconeogenesis is used during starvation if not enough proteins are eaten. Ketosis is achieved when energy input is low enough, provided that you don't eat carbs or very few. If you stuff yourself with a moderate amount of proteins and lots of fat, ketosis will not be as efficient as if you actually eat moderate fats. You can then up your proteins and still be in ketosis because of an absence of energy surplus..

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