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  • 'Sausage not steak' increases heart disease risk ........harvard study today BBC news

    Well looks as though theyre finally getting the message

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8688104.stm

  • #2
    Not so sure if I agree with them on the salt or the nitrates, those are blunt assumptions with little substantiation. It is pretty high in arachidonic acid which can definitely lead to heart disease in excess and processed stuff doesn't have anywhere near the nutrient content of good meat. The little bit at the bottom where they concede that all they came up with is correlation, not necessarily causation is worth mentioning too. People more likely to eat processed meat are people who are more likely to eat other junk, they are the ones who indulge in EVERYTHING. Good of them to mention that.

    *hugs mr. beef tongue* You're golden, buddy. Fucking golden
    Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

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    • #3
      you and those cow tongues. I have to ask my farmer friends and see what's up. You've piqued my interest enough now. I will stab into that shit. I never ever thougt too. Can't promise I'll dig it but I have to say, has to be better than trype. I find the smell unappealling. I know it's good but, ugh.

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      • #4
        Beef tongue is very fatty, very cheap, and I couldn't cook a steak if my life depended upon it but I can clean a cow tongue and throw it in a crock pot.
        Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

        Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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        • #5
          My grass-fed guy sells his tongue for 10 cents a pound more than the beef variety pack. You can get a cow's head, too. I was thinking of having it delivered to the office.

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          • #6
            seems to me that even those who like their bacon and sausage could always pick up the uncured or unsmoked variety, and have even less to worry about. not ordering the sausage and bacon breakfast at denny's isnt a bad start haha.

            i just hate when meta analysis or epidemiological studies that show correlation come out with big headlines like 'sausage a day increases heart risk', which is what everyone's going to remember, instead of thinking about what aspects of it might be important, or considering confounds and causation.

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            • #7
              I may have to try cow tongue. I am cooking hearts at the moment so tongue can't be much worse. And sausages are shit if you look at the ingredients. Full of bad oils and flour.
              A steak a day keeps the doctor away

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              • #8
                Sausage isn't a dish, it's just a vehicle for meat with other stuff. They can be 100% perfect primal - my butcher makes sausages from lamb, extra lamb fat, salt & pepper, lemon zest, and some spices. They are ridiculous with a bit of tatziki and a lemon wedge, and if you're getting crazy, an onion sauteed in butter and some wilted spinach.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tfarny View Post
                  Sausage isn't a dish, it's just a vehicle for meat with other stuff. They can be 100% perfect primal - my butcher makes sausages from lamb, extra lamb fat, salt & pepper, lemon zest, and some spices. They are ridiculous with a bit of tatziki and a lemon wedge, and if you're getting crazy, an onion sauteed in butter and some wilted spinach.
                  God! I just watched Julie & Julia and everything is better with butter!.. Just put brocoli, mushrooms, onions and few almonds in a casserole with butter and it was like heaven...

                  A girl friend of mine told me,"you will die soon!!" and I replied, Julia Child was almost 92 years old when she die, and she was really thin for most of her life.

                  She kept quiet after that

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                  • #10
                    I like the occasional sausage in my primal omelet ... there are also different brands of sausages, and some contain lots of additives (sometimes even carbs) while others are - except for the salt and nitrate of course - quite compatible with the primal lifestyle. Surely you shouldn't base your diet on sausages, but IMO there's nothing wrong with the occasional indulgence.
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                    • #11
                      If they didn't control for carb intake, this study really means nothing. In fact, the Daily Mail had it as "bacon sandwich a day increases risk of heart disease" which may well be true, but why finger the bacon? As Stabby mentioned, people who ignore CW nutrition advice are likely indulging in other high-risk behaviors as well such as alcohol, poor sleep habits, and oxidized or trans-fats, all of which promote inflammation and secondarily heart disease.

                      However, it's a good reminder to stick to meats that are as unprocessed and organic as possible. And yes, you can get bacon and sausage this way, but you have to sort through a minefield of junk to find it, even at Whole Foods.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bushrat View Post
                        I may have to try cow tongue. I am cooking hearts at the moment so tongue can't be much worse. And sausages are shit if you look at the ingredients. Full of bad oils and flour.

                        I make my own sausage that I believe would qualify as being primal...........After all, i am merely grinding up some pork roasts, adding sea salt, pepper, sage and mixing it all up...............

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                        • #13
                          I make my own sausage and jerky and therefore I control all the ingredients - the reason I started making them in the first place. Hoping to do a batch of pepperoni sticks this weekend :-)
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                          • #14
                            I would love your recipe for pepperoni sticks! We make all of our own jerky - we haven't ventured into the world of sausage yet, but all we really need a little nudge. I have done some very limited research for pepperoni recipes and they all make about 10 pounds of it. I was hoping to make a little less than 10lbs!
                            If you know of any good resources for making sausage, etc. I'd love to check them out!
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