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  • Seriously; get rid of added oils and fat!!!

    Alright, here comes the tip of the day for all of you primal kids that has stalled in your efforts and can’t lose more weight; - stop using oils and added fat in your cooking!!! Yep you may have heard it before, and I know that I am kind of swearing in the primal church congregation by repeating it, but if you really want to get rid of that stubborn fat on upper thighs, butts and lower abs, then the added dietary fat must go! Remember that only 4 tablespoons of olive or coconut oil per day ads up to almost one pound of stored body fat per week and it gives little back in satiety or essential nutrition (unless you are concentration camp lean!). So learn how to cook your food without any oils at all, foods such as scrambled eggs can perfectly be made in some water just add salt and herbs when finished and it becomes delicious. And when cleaning up dietary habits make sure to get rid of that goddamn awful bullet-proof coffee as well, just saying!

    But this is just an advice guys, everybody can still do whatever f$#k they wanna do, if you still want added oils and bulletproof coffee just do what you are doing, and keep on searching for reasons why you can’t lose those last pounds of stubborn body fat…
    Last edited by Gorbag; 12-19-2013, 09:41 AM.
    "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

    - Schopenhauer

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    I need more fat for brain function. When I don't get it, I'm a bitch. A weepy, irritable bitch.

    Your body is not my body, and my body is not someone else's body. We're all different.

    So, while I agree that getting rid of fat seems to work well for you and probably a lot of other people, and that more people should consider just how many calories they're consuming in fat (as well as other macros), it's not The Ultimate Key to Health and a Bikini Body for everyone. Sometimes it's a bit more complicated than that.
    Durp.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
      Yep you may have heard it before, and I know that I am kind of swearing in the primal church congregation by repeating it, but if you really want to get rid of that stubborn fat on upper thighs, butts and lower abs, then the added dietary fat must go!
      oh, so butter makes saddlebags and love handles?



      Remember that only 4 tablespoons of olive or coconut oil per day ads up to almost one pound of stored body fat per week
      of course, that's exactly how it works. cico. why didn't anybody else think of that.

      didn't that thread from a few days ago go on long enough for you?
      As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

      Ernest Hemingway

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      • #4
        also, scrambled eggs in water? bleck. at least poach the damn things.
        As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

        Ernest Hemingway

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        • #5
          I'm in agreement for me, and have been for most of a year. I use a teaspoon or a half tablespoon of coconut oil in my coffee (1-3 cups per day) and if I have to saute something that doesn't have it's own fat, generally just getting the pan shiny by smearing a bit of oil/fat on with a paper towel.

          Even with that, I still get 40-50% of my calories from fat because most healthy meats come with their own fat and I eat lots of meat. Also a moderate amount of eggs.

          I think if I ate 4 tablespoons of coconut oil per day, I'd spend a lot of time in the loo.
          "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

          B*tch-lite

          Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
            I need more fat for brain function. When I don't get it, I'm a bitch. A weepy, irritable bitch.
            My brain run on glucose RitaRose, so your brain seem to be different from mine...
            "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

            - Schopenhauer

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            • #7
              Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
              also, scrambled eggs in water? bleck. at least poach the damn things.
              Just a little water and add salt and oregano when finishing...
              "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

              - Schopenhauer

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              • #8
                Ahh interesting rant... While I agree that 1 tbsp of butter in your coffee or 2 tbsp of butter in your eggs is ridiculous I find it hard to believe the .25 tbsp in my eggs and .5 tbsp on my sweet potato is doing me harm. Everything in moderation

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                • #9
                  I think it's a do-able process if that's what a person wants or feels it is relevant.

                  In my own analysis of why people seem to stall out has nothing to do with added fat (i.e., cooking your eggs in butter; putting some Udo's on the salad) but really with the process of primal treats or making primal/paleo substitutes for things: cookies, breads, etc. Or, even just eating an abundance of nuts in general.

                  In my own process, I'm consuming raw or juiced veg (green juice in the morning, big salad in the evening). I usually don't have a snack, just two meals. My snack will usually be a piece of fruit (by itself!). And I have eggs once a day, meat once a day. Sometimes I just have one or the other. And some days, I have all raw veggie/fruit days (these are rare), and even more rare are water-only days.

                  My diet is aligning along a high-fat diet, but sitting around 35-45%, with protein and carbs taking up the rest. So, it is high-fat, but not what others are doing.

                  And, taking the Udo's is good for balancing those EFAs.

                  Also juicing wheatgrass is fun.

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                  • #10
                    I think there is something to be said for what uncle gorby is trying to say here. before this turns in to a cico war, I think that readdressing caloric intake is something that anyone who is stalling in their weightloss efforts should do. weightloss might not be 100% about cico, but no matter how broken or deranged you are, calories still matter. you guys can fight it out about what percentage they matter. I don't care. excess fat is calorically dense and nutritionally devoid. so perhaps reeling in the fat intake a little bit could help people bust through plateaus or lose those last 5-10 vanity lbs just in time for bikini season.

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                    • #11
                      My n=1 is that this is a totally individual thing. I cook with a decent amount of butter and coconut oil. I make Bulletproof Coffee a couple days a week. But I don't do it because of some perceived health benefit--I do it because that sh*t is delicious. And my caloric needs are a lot higher than most people; I have trouble truly getting "too many" calories, so an extra 500 calories from fat or whatever is pretty much nothing.

                      I have nice abs. But if I was about to do an underwear modeling gig, or had to film a scene in the new '300' movie, I'd probably cut out extra added fats for a couple weeks. But I'd be grouchy. Because that sh*t is delicious.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                        My brain run on glucose RitaRose, so your brain seem to be different from mine...
                        Aren't we always complaining how vegans are neurotic, irritable wrecks because they don't get enough fat?

                        I'm repairing brain cells, not just working with what I've got and hoping for the best.
                        Durp.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                          My brain run on glucose RitaRose, so your brain seem to be different from mine...

                          it doesn't run on diet soda and diet jello?
                          As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                          Ernest Hemingway

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mr. Anthony View Post
                            My n=1 is that this is a totally individual thing. I cook with a decent amount of butter and coconut oil. I make Bulletproof Coffee a couple days a week. But I don't do it because of some perceived health benefit--I do it because that sh*t is delicious. And my caloric needs are a lot higher than most people; I have trouble truly getting "too many" calories, so an extra 500 calories from fat or whatever is pretty much nothing.

                            I have nice abs. But if I was about to do an underwear modeling gig, or had to film a scene in the new '300' movie, I'd probably cut out extra added fats for a couple weeks. But I'd be grouchy. Because that sh*t is delicious.
                            I completely agree... I GORGED yesterday... 2lbs sweet potatoes, 10oz chicken, 1lb ground beef, 2 pieces bacon, 3 eggs, and 1.25 tbsp butter with a little guacamole and lettuce just put me over 2500 calories. Add in the roughly estimated 500 calorie loss via exercise session and I'm definitely still at a caloric deficit.

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                            • #15
                              Nah, I'm gonna keep the fat. If I wanna lean out I'll ditch the excess carbs first. Hey I already done it and I know what works for me. But, I don't really add much fat and oil to things anyhow (well just butter for stuff). I buy really fatty cuts of meat and cook them overtop my veggies, squash, or tubers. That way I save time and money. I'm using animal fat in a very natural way and I don't have to buy extra oils. Thats my method anyhow.

                              For instance I'm having lunch right now: 1lb 75/25 ground beef, 12 oz cauliflower/broccoli mix, one onion, four cloves of garlic, salt, pepper, and Italian seasoning. Cook that all together and you waste none of that delicious grass fed fat PLUS you don't have to add any either! So I can follow uncle Gorbags advice AND gets my fats! Win win
                              Last edited by Neckhammer; 12-19-2013, 11:58 AM.

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