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  • #46
    There was one poster who was given the "eat Moar sugar" rap that I remember very specifically. She was diabetic. She rejected that advice and the diabetes advice from her doctors, and followed primal. She lost ~100 pounds in 100 days. That's something I've never seen a woman do here. Clearly the eat Moar sugar crap wouldn't have helped her.

    Carb flu was being written off, not as something to be gotten through, but as something to "cure" with sugar. Whole and healthy foods were being laughed at and replaced with processed supplements. Not as supplements, though, but as the "cure all" for long life and happiness. "Feeling good" was the only criteria for health. My apparently feeble attempts to show people that cocaine makes you feel good and so "feeling good" wasn't the only criteria for health was met with name calling. Paleobird's attempts to bring the conversation back to Primal was met with disdain.

    The answer as to why she left is in her journal. The link is in the first response to the question as to why she left.

    My perception was that Paleobird thought every forum/community ended up with a Grizz and I never got the idea that she wanted him gone. But I could be wrong about that.

    From "stalker," to "retard," the minute someone calls names or insults rather than offering an opinion or citing reputable information, they diminish whatever forum or community they are addressing. Putting up with it enables it to continue. I respect Paleobird's decision to leave. But, I wish she would come back.
    "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

    B*tch-lite

    Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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    • #47
      Paleobird claimed that I will grow tumors and cáncer from drinking Diet Coke and maybe that will happen some day, but another possibility is that diet coke makes me live longer and better than all paleo fundamentalists...
      "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

      - Schopenhauer

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
        Paleobird claimed that I will grow tumors and cáncer from drinking Diet Coke and maybe that will happen some day, but another possibility is that diet coke makes me live longer and better than all paleo fundamentalists...
        you're being preserved from the inside out like the monks

        Most Intriguing Mummies: Perfectly Preserved Human Bodies | WebEcoist
        beautiful
        yeah you are

        Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
        lol

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        • #49
          Originally posted by AMonkey View Post
          I may have missed all this drama, but this 'gummie bears' and 'eating pure sugar' seems to be pure strawmen to demonise some of the dissenting opinions here. I've never seen anybody advocated eating pure sugar on this forum.
          no more of a strawman than this:

          where the fat comes from bacon, spoonfuls of coconut oil and coffee emulsified with half a stick of butter every morning.


          yet ct drags it out on a regular basis, conveniently ignoring what doesn't suit his pretend version of high-fat/lc plan that some members here follow and thrive upon.

          when i first joined there was a very underweight woman, supposedly following peat, telling everybody to drink coca-cola to cure what ailed them -- from weight gain, to cravings, to thyroid issues. i knew she was a whack job, but apparently not everybody did.


          Also for the couple of commentors talking proudly about ignoring people; well done on contributing to a culture of ignorance. Even if you disagree with somebody, their opinions are worth hearing unless they are deliberately malignant. I've disagreed with many people here but I've never met one that is worth totally silencing their opinion. Frankly it reeks of "LALALAL I CAN'T HEAR YOU!".
          choosing to ignore a poster who irritates you isn't contributing to a culture of ignorance. it's no different than changing the tv channel if you don't like the show airing. they're also not being "silenced". anybody else who wants to read them is perfectly free to do so.

          my version of the ignore button happened right around when pb blew up, i guess, and i had to take a break from here. the board felt hostile and full of crackpots spouting crazy shit. if you posted in disagreement, you were insulted. it's one thing to have threads exploring hacks and quacks, but muscling in everywhere and being downright hostile to other's n~1 IS ignorant. r/l can suck enough. i don't need to spend an extra minute with assholes on the internetz.

          eta: in fact, now i remember! just the other day, somebody here called me stupid. why adults have to act like 6 year-olds on-line is beyond me.
          Last edited by noodletoy; 12-09-2013, 08:54 PM.
          As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

          – Ernest Hemingway

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          • #50
            Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
            you're being preserved from the inside out like the monks

            Most Intriguing Mummies: Perfectly Preserved Human Bodies | WebEcoist
            Haha, after celebrating my 150 years of age I will go underground and just sip a mixture of Coke Zero and lime juice through a straw until I dry out enough to be preserved as a mummie for ever...
            "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

            - Schopenhauer

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
              Haha, after celebrating my 150 years of age I will go underground and just sip a mixture of Coke Zero and lime juice through a straw until I dry out enough to be preserved as a mummie for ever...
              300 years from now archaeologists will dig you up and marvel at your preserved organs and muscles and flaming shorts

              who WAS this man?!
              beautiful
              yeah you are

              Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
              lol

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                Haha, after celebrating my 150 years of age I will go underground and just sip a mixture of Coke Zero and lime juice through a straw until I dry out enough to be preserved as a mummie for ever...
                Gorbag..you are leaving out the rum that I KNOW you add to it. It will help in the preservation.

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                • #53
                  Update:

                  I burned my cookies. It was tragic.

                  First, we made the cookies. Then we put them in the oven. Then i took them out of the oven to cool on the stovetop.

                  DH had been cooking before (tea and getting the chicken into the dutch oven so we get some crispy skin), and left the burners on.

                  So, of course, my cookies burned.

                  Very tragic. I don't have any more ingredients for it. I bought bulk -- exactly the ingredients that I would need for *this one* batch of 24 cookies. Dammit! LOL

                  Ah well, also made home-made gummy bears (gelatin and juice concentrate or fresh juice that you reduce down gently) and paleo fudge. I think I'm going to go a peppermint-bark-y fudge at some point.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
                    no more of a strawman than this:
                    the only thing i'll say to that is that while there may have been 1 person advocating gummy bears and soda (although personally I never actually saw it written anywhere), there are countless people here drinking bulletproof coffee and touting it's wonders (lol), eating coconut oil by the spoonful, and eating bacon by the pound. I've not only read about people doing all of those things, but I've also personally seen people advocating these behaviors to others. so I think your comparison is a little off base.

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                    • #55
                      I don't know anyone drinking bulletproof coffee. It was a hack. I'm sure most who tried it, dropped it b/c their bodies couldn't handle the calorie load (some few likely can). Choco keeps harping on it but that doesn't mean it is true. There were quite a few threads promoting sugar in many forms including table sugar, Mexican coke, ice cream, etc. Surprised that you missed them.
                      Starting Weight: 197.5
                      Current Weight: 123
                      Far healthier!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by AMonkey View Post
                        I may have missed all this drama, but this 'gummie bears' and 'eating pure sugar' seems to be pure strawmen to demonise some of the dissenting opinions here. I've never seen anybody advocated eating pure sugar on this forum.
                        There isn't. OK, there are probably a couple posts somewhere out there, but there are THOUSANDS of posts where people are seriously advocating people eat tablespoons of refined, solid fat in order to help crush cravings for a tiny piece of fruit. That was always the norm - eat more fat regardless of what it's doing to you. If you want an evil piece of fruit, you should be eating coconut oil by the tablespoon and drinking beef drippings to make you so sickly full you no longer want an apple.

                        That was the advice around here for YEARS. That was the NORM. And people get their panties in a ruffle because people give the "thumbs up" to fruit and potatoes? This place has gotten much better over the years. There are trolls on every forum - go to a Chevy forum and watch the people trolling that love Fords and vice versa. Over all, this is a much more centered, regulated place than it used to be.
                        Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by janie View Post
                          I don't know anyone drinking bulletproof coffee. It was a hack. I'm sure most who tried it, dropped it b/c their bodies couldn't handle the calorie load (some few likely can). Choco keeps harping on it but that doesn't mean it is true. There were quite a few threads promoting sugar in many forms including table sugar, Mexican coke, ice cream, etc. Surprised that you missed them.
                          No.

                          It's the hypocrisy I take issue with. You can't say "avoid refined sugar," then promote overcomsumption of refined fat, like emulsifying half a stick of butter in coffee or eating coconut oil out of a jar. Both are equally bad and equally counterproductive. Just eat real food. If you want fat, eat meat, eggs and cheese. If you want carbs, eat fruit and potatoes. Why is that hard? Don't try and overeat fat to blunt a carb craving. That's lunacy.

                          There are a handful of posts spread over YEARS of content in this forum where people suggest eating white sugar. It would not even be a full percentage point in the total content of this forum. There are thousands upon thousands of posts advocating the consumption of refined fats to kill carb cravings. That was the staple advice in this place for years. There is a HUGE difference. You're comparing an incredibly tiny outlier to the rolling average.
                          Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                          • #58
                            God it's like Voldemort. Don't even mention bulletproof coffee.
                            Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                            • #59
                              lol the coffee-that-shall-not-be-named?

                              I never did bulletproof, but I did read his web site and got some good ideas off of it from other things.

                              During the era when Paleobird left, the majority of the posts were about sugar. Just because there are fewer of those than over the total age of the board isn't what is relevant. At the time of Paleobird's complaint, she was right. It was my experience, also, that there was a dominant push for people to have straight up processed sugar -- which we can assert is non-paleo/primal quite clearly. Eating extra fat -- while not strictly PB *is* a method of making up caloric deficiencies if people aren't meeting their caloric needs and have already maxed out their protein and carbohydrate numbers (based on PB). I don't think it's the right/best way to go, mind you, but it is more in alignment with PB.

                              And that's the difference and the point. Paleobird was about PB, and the board is technically about PB, too. And as soon as her majority experience was people touting refined sugar, she alerted Mark to it, and when she didn't get a response, she left.

                              Simple as that.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
                                no more of a strawman than this:


                                Originally posted by not on the rug View Post
                                the only thing i'll say to that is that while there may have been 1 person advocating gummy bears and soda (although personally I never actually saw it written anywhere), there are countless people here drinking bulletproof coffee and touting it's wonders (lol), eating coconut oil by the spoonful, and eating bacon by the pound. I've not only read about people doing all of those things, but I've also personally seen people advocating these behaviors to others. so I think your comparison is a little off base.
                                you've been here longer than i have, so won't argue the evolution of the mda mindset. i just did a member search for that "drink coke" chick and she no longer seems to be here. she was not the only one blabbing about it when i joined, but was so full of woo she specifically stuck in my memory.

                                web boards ebb and flow and there will always be a certain personality type that feels entitled to bully on the netz, regardless of the topic. it's not always easy to ignore when it's directed at you or when the sole purpose is simply to squash dissent.

                                there are a number of members here with a my-way-WORKS and they completely disregard the n~1 of others having success through different strategies. in late summer, the condescending presumption got tiresome for me too.
                                As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                                – Ernest Hemingway

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