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    Hi folks,
    I just wanted to ask about this one, just for fun.
    I noticed on the forum some people seem to have a fantasy as to how they think things should or shouldn't be in terms of what food will be on the market for example. But reality is, there's nothing you can do about it. In industrialized societies such as the USA people continue to get fatter and sicker as the decades go by.

    Sure, people who truly care about their health and are determined to find a way to be healthy, will succeed, but such is getting harder and harder these days with all the junk food being sold and all the misinformation that's put out there. People don't even know what real food is anymore. And it's only going to get worse.

    So I have a good question. How bad will it get? And for how long? And how fat will people get? What do you think?

    It absolutely disgusts me to admit this as the truth. But it is what it is. Like I said, some will try and succeed, others who are too stupid to care will only get worse, and by a show of hands that's most people.

    Peace folks.
    Disgusting!!!
    Last edited by Ripped; 11-05-2013, 09:44 AM.

  • #2
    People in general are going to be Wall-E fat in the next 40 years, I bet.

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    • #3
      Obesity is good for for the GDP. Just think of all the sectors of the economy that depend on it. It really is quite literally the only growing industry. I don't see it going away anytime soon; it would be bad for business.
      Life is death. We all take turns. It's sacred to eat during our turn and be eaten when our turn is over. RichMahogany.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mr. Anthony View Post
        People in general are going to be Wall-E fat in the next 40 years, I bet.
        They already are, several people in my office are circular. FUPA's that weigh more than most people's torsos.
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        • #5
          From what I have seen, on average if a woman doesn't care what she eats, she reaches 200-250 lbs, and a man 250-300 lbs and can live a long life with medial support. Weight beyond that is harder to sustain without perishing.
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          • #6
            Having been fat (obese) I can certainly understand the process of how you get to that point. As long as profit and industry rule the day people will get fat. Maybe the world will get so fat that nobody can fight in wars and we will finally get to a point of world peace. Everyone will be sitting around doing bong hits (do they still call it this? - yeah I'm old) and eating twinkies and nachos. The few in shape people will be ostracized from society and will have to live in the polar cap so they can't prance around naked.

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            • #7
              I'd have to agree with Leida. I think we will have a lot of people weighing from 200-300 lbs, but I also think the super obese will grow in numbers. When I ate SAD, I got pretty close to 300lbs while still being fairly active.

              However, I don't think we will ever get to a point where people "want" to be fat. I think the big game changer would be an effective weightloss pill of some sort.

              The other thing I think will happen is a shrinking of the "middle weight" so to speak. I think you will have more super fit/healthy people and WAY more fat people, and fewer middle sized people. If I was a retailer of women's clothing, I'd anticipate selling more 0/2/4/6 and more 14/16/18/20 and fewer 8/10/12 sizes. It's kind of like wealth, where the middle class erodes. While, yes more and more people eat full on crap, you also have all the very health aware people involved in fitness, yoga, Whole Foods etc. Those people may not following the Primal Blueprint, but for the most part your triathletes, runners, vegans etc. are not becoming obese.

              I think some positives will include the overweight and obese continuing to be more active; I think a lot of them "sit it out" due to shame versus laziness.

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              • #8
                There has been some news recently that the obesity trend is starting to reverse itself in the US - c'mon folks keep up ;-)
                Not sure if this is really happening or just a blip before we go on to greater and greater weights.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                  However, I don't think we will ever get to a point where people "want" to be fat.
                  Do you REALLY think that? Think again.
                  Mother's bid to become the fattest human ever at 115 stone... (and she's marrying a chef to help her) | Mail Online
                  Here's a quote from the page:
                  "Amazingly Parker is supporting Susanne in her controversial goal of becoming the world's heaviest."

                  Even on this website we have people who's goal is to get fat. I've seen people talking about wanting to bulk up even when they're already heavy and do GOMAD (drink a gallon of milk a day). Perhaps that in of itself isn't exactly a goal to specifically get fat, it's actually the desire to gain muscle. But IMHO it surely comes from twisted thinking. When your goal of building muscle gets in the way of what is good for you or even realistic, it only shows a lack of understanding of the human body. And to anyone who doesn't believe me on this one: I'll just comment on the fact that in the world of competitive powerlifting, I have known PLENTY of light weight guys who are lean, strong, muscular, can lift WAY more than what you'd ever dream of in your life, and they accomplished it without the requirement of turning themselves into fat slobs.

                  What about sumo wrestlers?

                  Anyways, it's all disgusting in my eyes. They can do what ever they want. I'm staying thin.

                  Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                  I think the big game changer would be an effective weightloss pill of some sort.
                  If they had a magic pill that made people know that being 250 lbs is far from normal, that might help.

                  If they had a magic pill that made them put the fork down, that might help as well. In reality, some anphetamines have proven to help with that, but at the cost of health risks.

                  I think in NYC they need a magic pill that makes people opt for water instead of the soft drinks. Apparently the people aren't capable of making wise decisions, so the government had to put a ban on 32 oz soft drinks.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by twa2w View Post
                    There has been some news recently that the obesity trend is starting to reverse itself in the US - c'mon folks keep up ;-)
                    Not sure if this is really happening or just a blip before we go on to greater and greater weights.
                    It could be possible. With today being the information age, FINALLY people have found ways and get together to share information of practical diet advice that actually works. When in a conversation with an 18 year old kid and he asked me how I lost weight and mentioned IF (without me previously mentioning about it), it tells me that something is changing in this world, something good.

                    Perhaps these days we are finally smartening up and becoming immune to advertisements. At least some of us.

                    Another factor might have to do with what commonly happens with males. How many males in the past had guys from muscle magazines as their idols, thinking they could get that big without drugs? A LOT!!! And they paid for it by getting fat. Now days everyone knows how widespread steroid use is, and I'm sure as a result there's got to be more guys with realistic expectations percentage wise.

                    Heck, if I only knew 20 years ago what I know now. I'd still be strong, but I would have gotten there without getting fat, and I would have enjoyed a good decade of leanness instead of a decade of progressively getting fatter. Yuk!!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ripped View Post
                      Sure, people who truly care about their health and are determined to find a way to be healthy, will succeed, but such is getting harder and harder these days with all the junk food being sold and all the misinformation that's put out there. People don't even know what real food is anymore. And it's only going to get worse.
                      I disagree with this statement. I think its much easier to be healthy these days. Grocery stores sell organic fruits & vegetables and grass-fed red meat (even some Walmarts do) and a plethora of healthy foods such as coconut products (which werent available to the masses just a few years ago). We have people like Mark Sisson, Robb Wolf, Chris Kresser, Jason Seib, Sarah Fragoso, Jimmy Moore, etc. doing their best to educate as many people as possible about being healthy with books / websites / seminars / podcasts. There are gyms everywhere. Craigslist is full of cheap weight equipment. Minimalist shoes are available. There are a ton of health-related documentaries out there. We have farmers mimicking the sustainable and soil-producing practices of Joel Salatin.

                      15-20 years ago none of these things were available. Sure, it may be difficult to start the process of becoming healthy but once a person goes down that path a world of options opens up, and its always growing.

                      Sorry, I just had to point that out. As far as how fat people will get I agree with what others are saying. Here in the middle of the US where I live most people are huge. I know very few people who are even trying to slim down and/or become healthier. Most wont even entertain the idea. Overweight/obesity is the norm in this part of the country for sure. Im trying not to judge, because I was obese too before I took charge of my health.
                      You may have thought you heard me say I wanted a lot of bacon and eggs, but what I said was: Give me all the bacon and eggs you have. - Ron Swanson

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                      • #12
                        So child obesity growth is stalling and even receding in a few cities that have made it a priority (Philadelphia being one). In the current crop, about 2/3 have a metabolic disorder by age 15, which is going to result in crushing health care costs over the next 50 years. The destructiveness of this cohort to the economy will make it impossible to continue with the ridiculous, "Well, if people would just not breath, they could control their environmental exposures" debate and public health policy will continue to step up.

                        So I would say we've seen the max in terms of childhood- we will be seeing a rise in adult as this cohort moves through though.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ripped View Post
                          Do you REALLY think that? Think again.
                          Mother's bid to become the fattest human ever at 115 stone... (and she's marrying a chef to help her) | Mail Online
                          Here's a quote from the page:
                          "Amazingly Parker is supporting Susanne in her controversial goal of becoming the world's heaviest."

                          Even on this website we have people who's goal is to get fat. I've seen people talking about wanting to bulk up even when they're already heavy and do GOMAD (drink a gallon of milk a day). Perhaps that in of itself isn't exactly a goal to specifically get fat, it's actually the desire to gain muscle. But IMHO it surely comes from twisted thinking. When your goal of building muscle gets in the way of what is good for you or even realistic, it only shows a lack of understanding of the human body. And to anyone who doesn't believe me on this one: I'll just comment on the fact that in the world of competitive powerlifting, I have known PLENTY of light weight guys who are lean, strong, muscular, can lift WAY more than what you'd ever dream of in your life, and they accomplished it without the requirement of turning themselves into fat slobs.

                          What about sumo wrestlers?
                          drinks.
                          I think the desire to get obese/morbidly obese is very rare and limited to sumo wrestlers, a few men, and the odd woman. Far, FAR more people want to get thin, but do not want to do the work. People spend a lot on weightloss.

                          Every woman I know that is even slightly overweight wants to lose weight. I have never met one who wanted to gain more. What I do see are more people who just accept their weight and don't take action to lose it, but they are not eating hohos in hopes of someday getting from 200lbs up to 300 lbs.

                          For men, it may be different but I know very few misguided power lifters getting fat in the pursuit of strength. OK, none. I only know one male powerlifter and he has great abs and does not seem interested in undoing them.

                          I think as a society, we are very slowly accommodating the obese, but we really are not celebrating it. I don't think little girls are looking at Adele and dreaming of being fat just like her. Celebs/models/images of "successful" women still tend to be slim/healthy. I don't think people are happy to be getting fatter, they are just choosing to ignore it,

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                          • #14
                            Got me. All I really want is for the government, doctors and various health authorities to give out the correct information about wheat and saturated fat rather than the usual conventional wisdom crap. Then people will at least have the correct information! The Catalyst program on saturated fat and statins, as well as the proliferation of paleo cookbooks, makes me hopeful that it might be coming. Plenty of people will ignore the new advice, of course, but that's their prerogative. I just want the correct information to be out there.
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                            • #15
                              The correct information is out there. It is summed up by most realistic movements. The message is: "Do not eat processed crap". The rest is a personal choice and experimentation.
                              Last edited by Leida; 11-05-2013, 12:17 PM.
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