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  • #16
    Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
    All that stuff always smells better than it tastes. When I smell something delicious like that I just breathe deep and enjoy the smell.
    Same. Though I realized the last few times I was near a bakery, it's the cinnamon or butter or chocolate that I like.

    I still like the yeasty smell of beer or a good bakery, but the commissary bread aisle smells like glue and plastic lol.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Jenry Hennings View Post
      Refined sugar won't negatively impact your diet/life. All carbs are broken down to the same molecule of glucose. A carb is a carb. A cookie, albeit devoid of any decent nutrients, is another carb source equal to a sweet potato.
      never heard of anybody binging helplessly on sweet potatoes, but know plenty who can down a whole box of cookies no problem. the two are not equal in the brain signaling department, sorry.
      As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

      Ernest Hemingway

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      • #18
        Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
        the two are not equal in the brain signaling department, sorry.
        Thank you for keeping it real!

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        • #19
          I understand how you feel. I have been having some gluten, dairy and egg free goodies lately. A local store does some really good donuts and a bakery while I was away did great cupcakes. I have been indulging somewhat but try to restrict it to a Sunday or a special occasion. I know I can't have them in the house, if I do I would have a lot of trouble leaving them alone. I know that the quantity of carbs. like rice, sweet potato or reg. potato has no affect on my naughtier cravings personally.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
            never heard of anybody binging helplessly on sweet potatoes, but know plenty who can down a whole box of cookies no problem. the two are not equal in the brain signaling department, sorry.
            'Devoid of nutrients'

            I said that. Point still stands. A macro is a macro no matter where it comes from

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            • #21
              I work out with people with amazing bodies and health, they all eat sketchy stuff on OCCASION. Key word is on occasion. I have found if I want X, I just need to eat it. Last Friday, I ate a chocolate chip scone. It hit the spot and I just went right back to healthy eating and have not wanted one since, or any other crap.

              In terms of pure healthy eating (not weightloss), eating "junk" once a week or even a couple times, as a snack or treat is no big deal. One or two cookies in the context of a week of whole foods (fruits/veg/meat) is not hurting your body. Most people who suffer from health issues related to diet are stacking the cookies on top of sugary staples like yogurt, cereal and other crap foods.

              Is it easy to go off track? Yeah...sometimes I do and all it takes is tossing the offending food items in the trash for me. For the most part I try and keep my treats to single serve- a cookie, a croissant versus buying a large amount.

              Fruit and sweet potatoes should not be on your radar as a bad food to be restricted or ashamed of eating unless you are explicitly doing Very Low Carb, then yeah, you need to restrict them for it to "work". But if you are doing Primal with that 75-100 grams of carbs, you have room for quite a bit.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
                never heard of anybody binging helplessly on sweet potatoes, but know plenty who can down a whole box of cookies no problem. the two are not equal in the brain signaling department, sorry.
                Originally posted by Jenry Hennings View Post
                'Devoid of nutrients'

                I said that. Point still stands. A macro is a macro no matter where it comes from
                bullshit reductionism.

                as evidenced in this thread, some do just fine having A scone or A cookie once a week, but if everybody was that dialed in to things nobody would be fat. moreover, those able to PUT DOWN THE CAKE have been primal quite some time and can read their bodies much better than the average joe or even those only primal a few months.

                you may eat a whole bag of cookies and then feel a bit sick of eating cookies and no longer want cookies, but you will still feel hungry for real food. if not immediately, then soon after.

                What Happens to Your Brain When You Eat Junk Food (And Why We Crave It) - James Clear

                http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/ma...agewanted=all&
                As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                Ernest Hemingway

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
                  bullshit reductionism.

                  as evidenced in this thread, some do just fine having A scone or A cookie once a week, but if everybody was that dialed in to things nobody would be fat. moreover, those able to PUT DOWN THE CAKE have been primal quite some time and can read their bodies much better than the average joe or even those only primal a few months.

                  you may eat a whole bag of cookies and then feel a bit sick of eating cookies and no longer want cookies, but you will still feel hungry for real food. if not immediately, then soon after.

                  What Happens to Your Brain When You Eat Junk Food (And Why We Crave It) - James Clear

                  http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/ma...agewanted=all&
                  What don't you understand about my original point? I acknowledge that you are 100% correct about satiation, nutrients, and whatever else you said. The better choice IS, categorically, un-equivocally, the better choice in food, HOWEVER, carbohydrate is 4 calories per gram. It will always be, no matter what food it is in. It may be reductionist, but certainly not bullshit. It seems your getting a bit angry.. Maybe you should have a cookie?

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                  • #24
                    am not angry at all, nor do i think sugar is the devil, but the over-simplification of a carb is a carb and a calorie is just a calorie is just nonsense.

                    although, i realize i am becoming a distinct minority with that view here.
                    As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                    Ernest Hemingway

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
                      am not angry at all, nor do i think sugar is the devil, but the over-simplification of a carb is a carb and a calorie is just a calorie is just nonsense.

                      although, i realize i am becoming a distinct minority with that view here.
                      I agree with you. If someone is unable to stop eating cookies once they start, it is pointless for someone else to tell them they should be able to stop at one. The idea that "a calorie is a calorie is a calorie" is not a part of finding a solution to the problem of irresistible cravings.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
                        am not angry at all, nor do i think sugar is the devil, but the over-simplification of a carb is a carb and a calorie is just a calorie is just nonsense.

                        although, i realize i am becoming a distinct minority with that view here.
                        I sort of agree with you and sort of don't. A carb is a carb but cookies and cake aren't just high in carbs... They are high in gluten, trans fats, PUFA, and contain the hyper palatable/fattening combo of fat + carbs.


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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
                          am not angry at all, nor do i think sugar is the devil, but the over-simplification of a carb is a carb and a calorie is just a calorie is just nonsense.

                          although, i realize i am becoming a distinct minority with that view here.
                          I completely agree. If I have 100 g of carbs from a banana, that makes me feel full in a way that 100 g of carbs from 3 cookies doesn't. After 3 cookies, I tend to want more cookies (and can eat more, easily), but after 1 banana, I'm done.
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                          • #28
                            You guys know that dense, kinda fermented dark rye bread? Thin, square slices which already weigh like 50 grams per slice because the bread is so dense? I ate 600 grams of this bread a couple months ago while waiting for a but. Damn heavy. But sometimes I just have this moments. Bread doesn't really make me feel sick. Giving in can even make me feel better, speed up my metabolism and make me feel warm on a cold day. But yea, I'm a 16 year old girl who lifts weights every day. Just need more carbs. Btw, I'm on school from 8.30 till 4 so sitting all day. Get so tired from this! Why would you get tired from sitting? (in weekends when I'm active, I have all the energy in the world). Sorry, kinda off topic

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                            • #29
                              And I can eat like 6 bananas and still crave oatmeal. Then I make the oatmeal (the good stuff, lots of it). And eat it. And feel awfully full haha.

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                              • #30
                                Cool how different people deal with cravings and foods. I'm in the "I'm done after two bananas, but a bowl of oats will get get me wanting MOAR" bunch. That and oats are too close to wheat for me to not feel like an old, tight water balloon after. Rice pudding on the other hand... Or almond butter or raisins. Can NOT keep those around.

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