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  • If you were me, what would a day of food look like?

    I know that ultimately, I need to find what works for me, but I could use some insight. I have BED and on the flip side, restrict (working on eating only real food and the restricting atm, and will tackle the BED when I feel that I am able to add in more). Eating the amount of food that I do now does not make me feel satisfied and yet I feel like a bottomless pit.
    Stats: 5'5, 130 (ish), moderately active (do not work out but spend every day playing with my toddlers/cooking/cleaning, sometimes walk/wear 22 lb of toddler), breastfeeding 15 m old frequently during the day and night. Dairy free due to nursling's intolerance/allergy (not sure which). Low carb and fasting do not work for me.
    My main concern is feeling more satiated with this WOE and getting my blood sugar under control. I am still not sure what causes it, but atleast once a week (less lately), I experience a crash so bad that I feel foggy/dizzy/exhausted for the rest of the day and can hardly function.
    Thank you!

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  • #2
    Try to eat 150 grams of protein a day. I guarantee you will be so not hungry you won't believe it. And you'll probably never make it to 150g a day. I can barely do it.
    Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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    • #3
      Googling high protein foods.

      Could you please give me an idea of what you typically eat in a high protein day?

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      • #4
        High protein, not low carb, not fasting day for a 130lb nursing female:
        -morning: coconut milk+ coffee, fruit or organic orange juice, 2-3 eggs scrambled or whatever
        -lunch: liver/gelatinous meat (8oz), 1 sweet or regular potato, some fruit or cooked veggies
        -dinner, at least 8oz red meat or seafood or eggs (breakfast for dinner is awesome), either tons of fruit or sweet potato.
        -try to incorporate bone broth or gelatin into diet.

        My days are kind of like that but more dairy and more haphazard because I don't always have time to cook (so smoothies, hard boiled eggs, cottage cheese and fruit take center stage for some meals).


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        • #5
          meat, nuts, seeds, vegetables, and fruit.

          Edit: to add lacto-fermented veggies and make sure meat includes eggs, shellfish, sucking the marrow from bone, and lots of organs.
          Last edited by Neckhammer; 11-02-2013, 06:08 AM.

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          • #6
            My ideal would be similar to turquoise passion, with maybe some more veges such as mushroom and silver beet in with your breakfast omelette, some roast veges with your dinner, save some as leftovers for a snack or tomorrow's lunch. I would also use treats such as chocolate coated almonds since nursing takes a lot of energy.
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            • #7
              Lately a fairly typical day for me is:

              Protein shake, 3 eggs and a little ham

              7.5oz canned salmon or a huge chicken breast, potato (sweet or white, huge or small)

              1/3-1/2lb hunk of meat or fish, vegetables, half a potato

              Chocolate sneaks in there sometimes

              Exercise: Either heavy lifting (2x a week) or exercise bike sprinting plus curl bro weight lifting (2x a week). Hike 1x a week. Rest like a sloth the rest of the time.

              I could totally go without the lunch or the dinner sometimes because so much protein kills my appetite, but I eat it anyway. I eat between 1600 and 2000 calories.
              Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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              • #8
                I'm starting to wonder if low blood sugar is mainly exacerbated by lack of sleep. People surviving on low carb tend to overdo it on their adrenals, and I wonder if the adrenals are what keeps them going in the afternoon after lunch. How much sleep do you get a day?

                I don't think high protein is needed...it does nothing to quell cravings and just gives you a feeling of fullness (which in my experience, does not help when you have a BE disorder). I would actually recommend eating a bunch of fruits and being sensible about nutrition otherwise (ie, regular meals with vegetables and meats). What are you eating now? Maybe we can have a better picture by having this answered as well.
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                • #9
                  I co sleep with my daughter and she nurses throughout the night, so I partially wake from 1-4 times every night.

                  Average food in a day:

                  1 cup black coffee. Fruit after each meal.
                  B: 2 eggs.
                  L: Meat (can of salmon, chicken drumstick, or a serving of beef or pork) or avocado, veggies and a potato or sweet potato when I remember to add that in.
                  D: Same as above.

                  I often feel hungry between meals, so I eat something like a couple of tablespoons of almond butter or coconut butter or a hard boiled egg or 1/2 an avocado. I never feel satisfied after my snacks.

                  On days when the BED feels out of control, but I limit myself to real food, I eat more then I can even believe will fit into my stomach. Yet I rarely feel stuffed (while with junk food, I feel stuffed but not full) or satisfied and the next day, I am hungry within 1-2 hours of waking up. Sometimes I wonder if I have really fucked up my body's signals and if I will ever be able to get myself back to normal.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by justme View Post
                    I co sleep with my daughter and she nurses throughout the night, so I partially wake from 1-4 times every night.

                    Average food in a day:

                    1 cup black coffee. Fruit after each meal.
                    B: 2 eggs.
                    L: Meat (can of salmon, chicken drumstick, or a serving of beef or pork) or avocado, veggies and a potato or sweet potato when I remember to add that in.
                    D: Same as above.

                    I often feel hungry between meals, so I eat something like a couple of tablespoons of almond butter or coconut butter or a hard boiled egg or 1/2 an avocado. I never feel satisfied after my snacks.

                    On days when the BED feels out of control, but I limit myself to real food, I eat more then I can even believe will fit into my stomach. Yet I rarely feel stuffed (while with junk food, I feel stuffed but not full) or satisfied and the next day, I am hungry within 1-2 hours of waking up. Sometimes I wonder if I have really fucked up my body's signals and if I will ever be able to get myself back to normal.

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                    2 eggs is a rather small breakfast. You could up it to three or four. I think I would recommend you eat more safe carbs. Breastfeeding takes it out of you so don't be afraid to eat when you're hungry.
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                    • #11
                      I don't really have any experience with eating disorders (although I'll admit the health/medical/science nerd in me is sort of fascinated and I read about them occasionally. It sounds really rough, and I hope you find some success).

                      One of the things I read was that eating disorders *can* originate in the brain with abnormal stress reactions. This particular article said it was somewhere along the spectrum from depression to scitzoicantspellbluh. So maybe instead of focussing on what you eat (a possible symptom) you can try some strategies in dealing with stress and emotions.

                      So what I would try is to first incorporate some destressing patterns, which you'll have to experiment to see what works. Try (as much as you can with a baby) to get good sleep. There are a lot of tactics you can try; search online. Also find something to do during the day whether it be a weekly yoga class, meditation, kickboxing, reading, or a walk after dinner.

                      Make sure you are getting plenty of micronutrients in your diet, so eat leafy greens, offals and boney pot roasts, fatty fish, and shellfish if you can get it. If you hate shellfish, fry some clams, you won't hate shellfish anymore.

                      I'm going out on assuming you have a SO or someone in the house other than you and the baby. Do they know about your BED? If they are willing to sit and talk/distract you from eating, maybe that can also help you work your way through it. I'm not a fan of going to doctors who will just treat with drugs, but getting some guidance from a medical precessional might be something to consider. Maybe you can find a holistic type near you?

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                      • #12
                        I eat a lot of high fat fish, this keeps me very full. I am not even thinking about foods until my next meal - ie, I do not snack because I eat such a high protein diet.

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                        • #13
                          Your food intake doesn't seem like much for someone 5'6" and nursing. Do you not eat more on a daily basis because you still feel a need to restrict how much you eat? It's possible the bingeing urge will lessen if you eat more at each meal.

                          On the other hand, BED is really about feeding the hunger in your head, not your body, so there's a limit to how much you can do by manipulating what and how much you eat. I was bulimic in college and then binged myself up to 205 lbs at my heaviest. I was never very good at restricting. I wasn't able to take the weight off until I began to address the psychological drivers for my eating. But even now, holding steady at 123 lbs, I have bingeing episodes where I feel like no amount of food will be enough. I'm still working out how to address what's driving them, rather than just falling back on the old numbing effect of stuffing food in my mouth.

                          I know looking after toddlers is exhausting, so working on your disordered eating on top of that is really admirable. If it takes you a while, that's totally understandable.
                          Last edited by LauraSB; 11-03-2013, 07:13 AM.
                          50yo, 5'3"
                          SW-195
                          CW-125, part calorie counting, part transition to primal
                          GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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                          • #14
                            Thanks for the empathy, LauraSB! It's nice when someone gets what being a mom brings with it (hard along with good).

                            I am doing what I can about my stress levels. Me time and money are two things that I just don't have. My partner is in his final year to earn his degree while working full time, which means that I am ... what do I call it? A pseudo single parent? That seems insulting to actual single parents. Whatever it is, I have no family support and so for the most part when it comes to our day to day lives, I'm on my own.

                            The BED definitely has huge emotional roots. I journal to try to talk it out as often as possible.

                            Thank you all for the input!

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                            • #15
                              That sucks that your family doesn't support you. I've been away from my family for three years (military +overseas), but I honestly think the distance has made us closer when we do connect. Are they unaware of the situation or just really not supportive?

                              Hubby will graduate (providing he tries) and hopefully get a good job, and the baby will grow up sooner than it seems from day to day. (People I left pregnant are already on their second kid and looking at preschools omg). Day to day sucks sometimes, but it won't last forever.

                              And we are all here for you, so don't feel alone or give up.

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