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    I see a lot of posts of people who take vitamins and dietary supplements.
    The point of the paleo diet is to mimic the diet of our ancestors. I don't think the early man had a bottle of vitamins just laying around.
    About 99% of vitamins and supplements on the market are made in a lab. They are all synthetic vitamins that our body cannot absorb. The early man had no problem with getting all the nutrients needed to sustain a healthy lifestyle.

    There are however natural organic vitamins on the market. But if you are following a paleo lifestyle then you should not need any supplements.

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    Except that our environment is so drastically changed that the foods people generally eat lack the nutrients that used to be in the soil. If veggies are grown with man made fertilizer than all those good things that made the veggies a powerhouse of nutrition are gone. Same goes for animal products, obviously that is why we try to eat GF beef and pastured pork and other animals.

    I'm not advocating synthetic vitamins but you are not giving the whole story. Early man didn't have 99.9% of what we have, sometimes using updated components of life are good. Grok one went after a wild animal with his bare hands, Grok two used a club - did Grok one say that the kill was no good because you upgraded to a new idea? Man evolves, hopefully in a good way.

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    • #3
      you mean all this time i've been buying powdered nutrients pressed into ovals and sold in plastic bottles and it isn't ancestral?!

      yeah, no, vitamins aren't natural. but neither are the foods we eat. the animals are fatter, the ground is stripped, monocrops are the norm, the apple you ate yesterday was most likely stored in a warehouse for a year, the carton of OJ you bought is flavored with tang and thanks to modern technology we no longer have to be cold in the winter or hot in the summer
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      • #4
        Originally posted by brookcorbyn View Post
        I see a lot of posts of people who take vitamins and dietary supplements.
        The point of the paleo diet is to mimic the diet of our ancestors. I don't think the early man had a bottle of vitamins just laying around.
        About 99% of vitamins and supplements on the market are made in a lab. They are all synthetic vitamins that our body cannot absorb. The early man had no problem with getting all the nutrients needed to sustain a healthy lifestyle.

        There are however natural organic vitamins on the market. But if you are following a paleo lifestyle then you should not need any supplements.
        /facepalm
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        • #5
          Originally posted by brookcorbyn View Post
          If you are following a paleo lifestyle then you should not need any supplements.
          Hmm. I guess my gut that chronically malabsorbs a number of nutrients didn't get the memo.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by brookcorbyn View Post
            I see a lot of posts of people who take vitamins and dietary supplements.
            The point of the paleo diet is to mimic the diet of our ancestors. I don't think the early man had a bottle of vitamins just laying around.
            About 99% of vitamins and supplements on the market are made in a lab. They are all synthetic vitamins that our body cannot absorb. The early man had no problem with getting all the nutrients needed to sustain a healthy lifestyle.

            There are however natural organic vitamins on the market. But if you are following a paleo lifestyle then you should not need any supplements.
            Yeah? Well, paleolithic man got most of their magnesium in drinking water. How do you suggest we replicate that, exactly?
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            • #7
              Dang, I thought dead soil drowned in round-up would be able to grow perfectly nutritious plants! Lol.
              Crohn's, doing SCD

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              • #8
                I live in the UK and to get enough vitamin D I would have to go on holiday for a week out of every month from October to May. I supplement Mg as there's no realistic way to get enough. Iodine comes in drops as I haven't found a reliable, constant source that isn't possibly contaminated from where mankind has poisoned the environment. I also take vitamin C tablets as I don't want to consume loads of fructose that comes with it in modern fruits. Where possible I get minerals from food but like others have said we are sharing this planet with 7000 million people a few of whom are happy to f*ck it up for everyone on their way to their next million dollars.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by brookcorbyn View Post
                  The point of the paleo diet is to mimic the diet of our ancestors.
                  Mimic is not the same as duplicate. We just can't eat exactly the same unless we own land, plant the correct things to eat and put game on it to forage there too and then kill. We can get close but I am happy taking the supplements recommended in Perfect Health Diet to be on the safe side.
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                  • #10
                    We'd also have to Jurassically Parkically resurrect a crap-ton of extinct plants and animals.
                    Crohn's, doing SCD

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by brookcorbyn View Post
                      The point of the paleo diet is to mimic the diet of our ancestors.
                      And I thought it was all about re-examining the BS we've been taught the last 40 years about health, and looking back so that we can get some cues from when most people were lean and healthy. If I thought I was going to have to go out and spear squirrels and nutria, I'd have never have started eating this way.
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                      • #12
                        The "paleo diet" is a bumper sticker. What hides behind this simple formula is the concept that we are better adapted to a certain set of ingredients. But as omnivores, humans adapt constantly to what is available, with varying degrees of success. Humans are opportunistic eaters. So saying that that opportunism was at its best until 10 kYears ago is a little weird.

                        To my mind, what mostly happened, if I have to be simplistic, is that we introduced more and more crap, toxic pseudo-foods, distorted genuine stuff into weirdo shit, as industrialization progressed and demography increased. We found new ways to increase energy density, but that went with a decrease in (micro)nutrient density, coupled with a deteriorating environment (ecological, social, spiritual). In short, it is quite the essence of the Hindu era called Kali Yuga.

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                        • #13
                          The caveman lure got me here, though. I knew pets did best on wild food, wanted that for myself, and when I googled "wild human food" this was one of the results.
                          Crohn's, doing SCD

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by brookcorbyn View Post
                            I see a lot of posts of people who take vitamins and dietary supplements.
                            The point of the paleo diet is to mimic the diet of our ancestors. I don't think the early man had a bottle of vitamins just laying around.
                            About 99% of vitamins and supplements on the market are made in a lab. They are all synthetic vitamins that our body cannot absorb. The early man had no problem with getting all the nutrients needed to sustain a healthy lifestyle.

                            There are however natural organic vitamins on the market. But if you are following a paleo lifestyle then you should not need any supplements.
                            Even though a few people are ripping you, I can see your point. You can be sure that eating this way will afford a person a much higher quantity of all those nutrients we need to thrive. A couple people mentioned a couple of nutrients that it seems are necessary to supplement because of either our environment has changed (Magnesium) or because of a modern lifestyle (Vitamin D). You can be sure that there are many others. Some part of all of this and other diets is a quest for "ultimate" (probably unattainable) health. I do not eat liver. I know I should. I'm hopefully not going to die or get sick if I don't eat liver. But maybe I need to look at what I am missing in nutrients and either substitute or maybe supplement, so I can be at my best.
                            Some of you may die, but that is a risk I'm willing to take.

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                            • #15
                              I wrote a post on multivitamins not too long ago. Yeah, I don't believe vitamins are ideal, especially from synthetic sources, which most commercial vitamins and supplements are. There is a wide variety of foods out there that in combination can provide a powerful source of micronutrients. All of these foods are of course, either not directly primal/paleo or are not encouraged to be eaten in large quantities (i.e. fruit.) In these cases, I think individual supplementation is a good fallback if they are of decent quality and taken in appropriate ratios with complementary nutrients (i.e. A/D, D/K2, calcium/phosphorus, sodium/magnesium, calcium/megnesium, etc.)
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