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    If there is appx 40 pounds or less to be lost, is there anything wrong with consuming the number of calories recommended for your goal weight rather than your current weight? Thanks.
    Paleo Diet: 8-25-13 Wt: 185 BF% 27
    Primal Diet (Lower Fat/Carb): 9-27, Wt: 176.4
    Potato Hack Diet (Rotation): 11-12, Wt: 171.2
    Primal Diet (LF/C): 1-23-14, Wt: 159.6
    1-30-2014 - 157 (lowest weight since 2004)
    GAPS/SCD 12-29-2014
    CW: 164 GW: 130-135 CBF%: 24.38
    49 - 5'7.5"
    Macros (PFC) 30/40/30

  • #2
    Originally posted by MsSmith View Post
    If there is appx 40 pounds or less to be lost, is there anything wrong with consuming the number of calories recommended for your goal weight rather than your current weight? Thanks.
    Recommended by whom? Primal Blueprint doesn't include calorie recommendations.
    The Champagne of Beards

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    • #3
      I checked several sites and they were all pretty much the same for my current weight and goal weight, and took into account my height and frame size.
      Paleo Diet: 8-25-13 Wt: 185 BF% 27
      Primal Diet (Lower Fat/Carb): 9-27, Wt: 176.4
      Potato Hack Diet (Rotation): 11-12, Wt: 171.2
      Primal Diet (LF/C): 1-23-14, Wt: 159.6
      1-30-2014 - 157 (lowest weight since 2004)
      GAPS/SCD 12-29-2014
      CW: 164 GW: 130-135 CBF%: 24.38
      49 - 5'7.5"
      Macros (PFC) 30/40/30

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      • #4
        Originally posted by MsSmith View Post
        I checked several sites and they were all pretty much the same for my current weight and goal weight, and took into account my height and frame size.
        If they're asking your goal weight, they're probably already calculating your caloric needs at the lighter weight. Why are you counting calories? I'm not saying you don't need to, but it might make sense to try the PB as written first, eating when you're actually hungry and all that, and only knock yourself out counting and measuring if that fails to work for you.
        The Champagne of Beards

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        • #5
          Thanks. Can you answer my question?
          Paleo Diet: 8-25-13 Wt: 185 BF% 27
          Primal Diet (Lower Fat/Carb): 9-27, Wt: 176.4
          Potato Hack Diet (Rotation): 11-12, Wt: 171.2
          Primal Diet (LF/C): 1-23-14, Wt: 159.6
          1-30-2014 - 157 (lowest weight since 2004)
          GAPS/SCD 12-29-2014
          CW: 164 GW: 130-135 CBF%: 24.38
          49 - 5'7.5"
          Macros (PFC) 30/40/30

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MsSmith View Post
            Thanks. Can you answer my question?
            I think I did.

            Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
            If they're asking your goal weight, they're probably already calculating your caloric needs at the lighter weight.
            Or am I not understanding what you want to know?
            The Champagne of Beards

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            • #7
              If there is appx 40 pounds or less to be lost, is there anything wrong with consuming the number of calories recommended for your goal weight rather than consuming the calories recommended for your current weight?

              That is my question.

              There is a vast difference in the number of calories recommended for my current weight and level of physical activity and the calories recommended for my goal weight with the same level of physical activity.

              I apologize. I thought this was a question that could be answered with a simple yes or no.
              Paleo Diet: 8-25-13 Wt: 185 BF% 27
              Primal Diet (Lower Fat/Carb): 9-27, Wt: 176.4
              Potato Hack Diet (Rotation): 11-12, Wt: 171.2
              Primal Diet (LF/C): 1-23-14, Wt: 159.6
              1-30-2014 - 157 (lowest weight since 2004)
              GAPS/SCD 12-29-2014
              CW: 164 GW: 130-135 CBF%: 24.38
              49 - 5'7.5"
              Macros (PFC) 30/40/30

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              • #8
                The bat making a circle above his head with his freakishly weird looking arms did answer you. If it is a calculator asking what your current weight, activity level and goal weight and then gave you a calorie recommendation, then that is the number they suggest to get to your goal.

                Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by oceangrl View Post
                  The bat making a circle above his head with his freakishly weird looking arms did answer you. If it is a calculator asking what your current weight, activity level and goal weight and then gave you a calorie recommendation, then that is the number they suggest to get to your goal.

                  Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2
                  It's a damn beard!

                  OP - Can you give us an example of one of the websites? I'm not sure I understand what you're looking at and whether they're "recommended" calorie intakes or "maintenance" calorie levels.
                  The Champagne of Beards

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                  • #10
                    I did not find a calculator that asked me how much I wanted to lose. I just checked the caloric recommendations for maintaining both weights - current and goal.
                    Paleo Diet: 8-25-13 Wt: 185 BF% 27
                    Primal Diet (Lower Fat/Carb): 9-27, Wt: 176.4
                    Potato Hack Diet (Rotation): 11-12, Wt: 171.2
                    Primal Diet (LF/C): 1-23-14, Wt: 159.6
                    1-30-2014 - 157 (lowest weight since 2004)
                    GAPS/SCD 12-29-2014
                    CW: 164 GW: 130-135 CBF%: 24.38
                    49 - 5'7.5"
                    Macros (PFC) 30/40/30

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                    • #11
                      The method you are wanting to use is different but a little interesting. The reason you did not get the lightning fast answer you wanted is because 99% of calorie tracking folks would use something like FitDay or Livestrong which asks questions and then gives you a caloric recommendation.

                      Try it and see how it goes. Out of curiosity, what is the difference between the two numbers?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by oceangrl View Post
                        The method you are wanting to use is different but a little interesting. The reason you did not get the lightning fast answer you wanted is because 99% of calorie tracking folks would use something like FitDay or Livestrong which asks questions and then gives you a caloric recommendation.

                        Try it and see how it goes. Out of curiosity, what is the difference between the two numbers?

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                        I was not asking for a lightning fast answer, just a simple one. I apologize again if my question was too complicated for that.

                        On average, about 1000 calories.

                        I don't recall the names of the sites that came up in my google searches.
                        Paleo Diet: 8-25-13 Wt: 185 BF% 27
                        Primal Diet (Lower Fat/Carb): 9-27, Wt: 176.4
                        Potato Hack Diet (Rotation): 11-12, Wt: 171.2
                        Primal Diet (LF/C): 1-23-14, Wt: 159.6
                        1-30-2014 - 157 (lowest weight since 2004)
                        GAPS/SCD 12-29-2014
                        CW: 164 GW: 130-135 CBF%: 24.38
                        49 - 5'7.5"
                        Macros (PFC) 30/40/30

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                        • #13
                          There wasn't an answer until we understood. I would go to www.livestrong.com or www.fitday.com and plug in your numbers. I haven't counted calories in years so I am not sure which one is better, but I hear them both talked about in calorie counting circles.

                          It would be interesting (to me anyway) to see if the numbers are the same with your method. I don't think they will be. 1000 differential seems like too much for 40 lbs.

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                          • #14
                            I was probably calculating my current weight as 180 and 185 when I first starting posting here, searching for info, and thinking about my past weight re: how my jeans fit then. Then I bought a scale and found that I weigh 176. I hadn't done many calculations since then until a few minutes ago. I went to a weight loss calculator at about.com It says I should be consuming 1200 calories per day to lose the weight by March 23. It won't give me an earlier loss date as it goes by a 2 lb a week guideline.

                            Thanks for taking time to discuss this with me.
                            Paleo Diet: 8-25-13 Wt: 185 BF% 27
                            Primal Diet (Lower Fat/Carb): 9-27, Wt: 176.4
                            Potato Hack Diet (Rotation): 11-12, Wt: 171.2
                            Primal Diet (LF/C): 1-23-14, Wt: 159.6
                            1-30-2014 - 157 (lowest weight since 2004)
                            GAPS/SCD 12-29-2014
                            CW: 164 GW: 130-135 CBF%: 24.38
                            49 - 5'7.5"
                            Macros (PFC) 30/40/30

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                            • #15
                              If your caloric needs are pretty close to what the calculator tells you, then yes, eating at the calories required for your goal weight will eventually get you there. If you are very overweight, you will lose at a pretty good clip at the beginning and then slow down as you get closer and closer to your goal. That's kind of what I did. It wasn't my original intention, but I found as my body fat got lower and lower, eating at a deficit got harder and harder. I just adjusted my deficit to something that was bearable to me. It turned out that my caloric needs close to goal were a bit higher than the calculator I was using, so that was amazing and thrilling to me.

                              Fixating on a date is a *bad* idea, IMO. You will slow down as you drop into the normal weight range. I didn't care, because I looked 1000x better than I did when I was obese, and I was OK with taking another 6 mos, or whatever. If you're obsessed with a number, calories and the scale will make you very sad.
                              50yo, 5'3"
                              SW-195
                              CW-125, part calorie counting, part transition to primal
                              GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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