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    Probs a silly question, but what is the best fish i.e. the "grass fed versions" of sources of the fish?

    I've seen organinc but whilst pesticide free etc. could these been farmed on a still poor diet etc?

    Are fish from the deli actually fresher/better sourced than fish on the shelf????

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    Last edited by rockstareddy; 05-07-2010, 01:18 AM. Reason: extra question
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    Stick with wild caught fish. Farmed fish is often grain feed and pretty much has the same profile as grain feed beef. Not sure about organic farmed fish, but I wouldn't trust it, probably was feed organic grain and still has lousy omega6/omega3 ratios.

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    • #3
      I can't remember where I heard that they are feeding the damn fish grains in farm raised fish. It blew my mind but I believe it! This is one of the perks of being an avid fisherman. I can usually put 5 pounds of catfish fillets (2 five ponders) a week in the fridge. In about a month I will have a massive white bass fish fry when they start biting heavy. I think everyone should fish, it really helps people understand their relationship with the world.

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      • #4
        Wild caught fish from clean water sources (ie. Wild Caught Alaskan Salmon)

        Yes, farm rasied fish is often fed corn and other grains and then dyed to enhance color (ie. make the salmon more pink since they lose the stuff in their natural diet that would normally make them pink). Farmed fish also live in small confinement with many other fish and lots of fish waste. Farmed fish = CAFO beef, IMO.

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        • #5
          The omega-3s in fish fat actually comes from algae and diatoms and whatnot that fish eat in the wild, but don't eat on farms. Therefore I don't see how farmed fish could be high in omega 3s (always smirk a little at the sign in the grocery store next to the farmed salmon saying 'good source of omega 3s!).

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          • #6
            Mackerel, salmon, herring, sablefish, whitefish, tuna - look for cold water (Atlantic or Alaska) and only buy wild caught.

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            • #7
              And, for the record, grass-fed meat is not exactly HIGH in Omega-3s... it's just has a better 6:3 ratio of 2:1. Fish is the best source of Omega-3s.

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              • #8
                I stick to wild fish and grass-fed beef and bison.

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                • #9
                  http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/c...endations.aspx

                  I have the iPhone app, it's awesome to have at the store!

                  also, look at the bottom of the page for the "Super-Green List"

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                  • #10
                    How to shop for heart-healthy fish

                    I found this interesting article on the net about "How to shop for heart-healthy fish".
                    This might give you some directions...

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                    • #11
                      THanks for your help guys, gonna be asking the guy at the deli counter of my supermarket if he has any idea how the stuff there is caught lol...
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                      • #12
                        Here's a follow-up on this old post from NPR: Scientists Seek A Break In Aquaculture's Fish-Eat-Fish Chain : The Salt : NPR

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                        • #13
                          I order great tuna and salmon from Elwa Fish company in Port Angeles.

                          Tuna is always wild-caught, but the canned in the stores is often screwed up with water-packing or packing in soy oil or some such. In August and Sept. look for Copper River Salmon -- really delicious wild-caught. There may still be frozen available later in the year. And don't forget shell fish -- crab is great. Shrimp, you need to watch the source (check the MDA archives for this). Also check out bi-valves like clams and oysters.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kimmie View Post
                            Wild caught fish from clean water sources (ie. Wild Caught Alaskan Salmon)

                            Yes, farm rasied fish is often fed corn and other grains and then dyed to enhance color (ie. make the salmon more pink since they lose the stuff in their natural diet that would normally make them pink). Farmed fish also live in small confinement with many other fish and lots of fish waste. Farmed fish = CAFO beef, IMO.
                            While I agree that wild-caught fish is likely to be superior, this primarily applies to the fattier fish - just like the n3:n6 ratio is vastly different in grass fed versus conventional beef, but there isn't really enough fat in a skinless/boneless chicken breast to actually worry about, the same is true with fish - there's a big difference between farmed and wild-caught salmon(farmed still has quite a bit of n-3, but a lot more n-6) and other relatively fatty fish, but for very low-fat fish the distinction isn't quite as important. Basically, if you're buying fish for the omega-3's, absolutely buy wild. For other fish, you have an option, but I'd still pay attention to the origin.

                            If you do buy farmed, however, I'd check the origin. I've seen farmed fish from China(mostly canned fish) - and while I don't have an objection to Chinese goods in general, I would NEVER, EVER touch fish farmed in China. Mostly because the one of the areas of China that farms the most fish to my knowledge(Guangdong province) also happens to be one of the dominant areas for export manufacturing, including the electronics sector - and these fish farms are often not all that far from the factories. Knowing some of the chemicals involved in those industries, I'm not about to trust fish farmed in China under any circumstances.

                            In general, wild-caught Alaskan salmon is my first choice for both taste and health reasons; if it's not in-season I tend to expand my selection a bit.
                            Last edited by jsa23; 10-15-2011, 08:55 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by emmie View Post
                              I stick to wild fish and grass-fed beef and bison.
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