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    Can anyone give me more info on this? I have stopped eating all fruits and vegetables (for the most part) and I am concerned that it is making my body too acidic.
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  • #2
    Essentially the acidic ash produced by digestion goes into the blood steam, has a transient stay and leaves. The alkaline ash does too and the better the balance, the less your body has to use alkalizing minerals to normalize blood ph. Blood ph is tighly regulated in the absence of extreme disease, but in that case they're fucked anyway.

    I'm really really really really interested as to the biological significance of this stuff. Okay so I used some minerals. How much? Enough to be relevant to health? What if it was so small an amount it makes little difference? There are an assload of people who have taken tiny, unsgnificant aspects of human health and blown them up to giant screaming mammoths in order to sell books. I'm a skeptic here. Somebody show me the evidence and explain it to me.
    Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

    Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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    • #3
      I don't have any studies... HOWEVER, you u can test how acidic your body with PH strips. And Supposedly, CANCER and most disease can NOT live in a alkaline environment. Supposedly, if you test a person suffering from just about anything... their pee will be acidic (chicken/egg??)... ALWAYS... I'm curious if there is truth to that... I'm off to bed to get my required beauty rest! The best part of primal for me right now...LOL! Thought I'd toss that out there...

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      • #4
        These is some evidence that the Eskimos have more osteoporosis, possibly because of their acidic diet: http://donmatesz.blogspot.com/search...Base%20Balance
        Fruits and vegetables are the base of the primal diet pyramid and there is no reason to stop eating them. The Eskimos eat only meat in winter because it's all they have to eat.
        Height: 5'4" (1.62 m)
        Starting weight (09/2009): 200 lb (90.6 kg)
        No longer overweight (08/2010): 145 lb (65.6 kg)
        Current weight (01/2012): 127 lb (57.5 kg)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by twinmama View Post
          I don't have any studies... HOWEVER, you u can test how acidic your body with PH strips. And Supposedly, CANCER and most disease can NOT live in a alkaline environment. Supposedly, if you test a person suffering from just about anything... their pee will be acidic (chicken/egg??)... ALWAYS... I'm curious if there is truth to that... I'm off to bed to get my required beauty rest! The best part of primal for me right now...LOL! Thought I'd toss that out there...
          Blood pH and urine pH are two different things.

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          • #6
            Alkalinity/acidity is touchy because of all the misinformation out there. You're body strives to keep the pH at a consistent number, if I remember correctly between 7.4 and 7.5, and because of diet, LIFESTYLE, exercise, ENVIRONMENT, it causes stress on your body because it has to work harder and harder to maintain that number while dealing with a toxic lifestyle as the cause.

            Each organ has a key pH necessary for optimal function, which is why I think piss pH tests are crap, just like ketostix.

            From what I've read, it's not as much the protein/fat are acidic versus fruit/veggies are alkaline argument that is the cause of problems. It's the protein/fat chemicals, additives, pesticides, ect... + the carb chemicals, additives, pesticides, ect... = cause of problems.

            On top of that, stressful thinking + stressful lifestyle + stressful feelings (anger, fear, frustration, sadness) can radically change you pH. Along with improper breathing.

            As most things in health, it is synergistic. It's not just diet, and in my opinion I think with the "healthier" people in the communities, it's more their lifestyles and the stress that comes from the lifestyles as a result.

            This is my opinion based on reading I've done.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by AuH2Ogirl View Post
              Blood pH and urine pH are two different things.
              So does that mean your blood can be acidic and your pee alkaline? 'cause obviously blood and pee are not the same things... I thought your pee, if tested OVER TIME, would indicate your general PH... hmm... It's all very interesting. Seems like whenever I read about this stuff, it ties in with inflammation... and inflammation is sited with disease....

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              • #8
                Is it possible to test blood ph with those strips? I'm about to order some. I don't mind cutting myself now and then.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by twinmama View Post
                  So does that mean your blood can be acidic and your pee alkaline? 'cause obviously blood and pee are not the same things... I thought your pee, if tested OVER TIME, would indicate your general PH... hmm... It's all very interesting. Seems like whenever I read about this stuff, it ties in with inflammation... and inflammation is sited with disease....
                  Your blood pH is very tightly controlled, so the short answer is no. The long answer is that your blood is always between 7.35 and 7.45 - just a little above neutral in alkaline territory. Your urine can be all over the map and can be affected by many many things including drugs, things you eat, just waking up, etc. etc.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rphlslv View Post
                    Is it possible to test blood ph with those strips? I'm about to order some. I don't mind cutting myself now and then.
                    It might get pretty boring, as your blood doesn't vary more than .10.

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                    • #11
                      It's a self regulating and you don't need to worry about it.
                      The "Seven Deadly Sins"

                      Grains (wheat/rice/oats etc) . . . . . Dairy (milk/yogurt/butter/cheese etc) . . . . . Nightshades (peppers/tomato/eggplant etc)
                      Tubers (potato/arrowroot etc) . . . Modernly palatable (cashews/olives etc) . . . Refined foods (salt/sugars etc )
                      Legumes (soy/beans/peas etc)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by AuH2Ogirl View Post
                        Your blood pH is very tightly controlled, so the short answer is no. The long answer is that your blood is always between 7.35 and 7.45 - just a little above neutral in alkaline territory. Your urine can be all over the map and can be affected by many many things including drugs, things you eat, just waking up, etc. etc.
                        So urine PH doesn't matter?

                        And Tarlach, I know that it's self regulating... but it needs calcium in order to do it, and it takes it away from the bones. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rphlslv View Post
                          So urine PH doesn't matter?
                          I would say in general, not really, since it can be affected by so many different things. But that's just my opinion.

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                          • #14
                            http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/20...e_or_woo_1.php

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mirrorball View Post
                              These is some evidence that the Eskimos have more osteoporosis, possibly because of their acidic diet: http://donmatesz.blogspot.com/search...Base%20Balance
                              Fruits and vegetables are the base of the primal diet pyramid and there is no reason to stop eating them. The Eskimos eat only meat in winter because it's all they have to eat.
                              Originally posted by Tarlach View Post
                              It's a self regulating and you don't need to worry about it.
                              Tarlach, you have a close to all meat diet, care to comment on the link which says that an all meat diet leads to cramps and is bad for you?
                              A steak a day keeps the doctor away

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