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Ray peat's explanation of gelatin and effect on lipolysis. Clarify please

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  • #61
    Originally posted by peril View Post
    But surely the only way to lose fat is by burning the NEFA released by lipolysis. If eating gelatin inhibits this then it inhibits fat loss.
    More fatty acids are continuously released from fat cells than are actually used by the cells. Some lipolysis and reesterification is happening all the time.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by peril View Post
      But surely the only way to lose fat is by burning the NEFA released by lipolysis. If eating gelatin inhibits this then it inhibits fat loss.

      Not that I'm in any way against eating gelatin as part of a whole foods diet. Cooking lamb shanks for dinner tonight
      And so I am at the start of my journey again
      I'm not saying lets kill all the stupid people in the world, I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem take care of itself.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Kikiperpie View Post
        And so I am at the start of my journey again
        While, theoretically, some may say that gelatin hinders fat loss, take comfort in the fact that many people on this forum have lost fat while taking gelatin on the regular, using it as a significant source of protein even. I myself find that it curbs my appetite, aiding in creating that coveted (and hotly debated) calorie deficit. Now, adding it to your wine may not be the best practice for fat loss, but trying it out certainly couldn't hurt.


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        • #64
          Originally posted by Kikiperpie View Post
          And so I am at the start of my journey again
          Lol..seriously, it will drive you nuts if you let it. I found myself doubting what has worked so well for me just cuz. Well that and Derp said something about vlc people smell and Mo and others claim something about Keto rage. I had to remind myself that I am not VLC and I smell like a rose. The rage thing..we'll see.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Kikiperpie View Post
            And so I am at the start of my journey again
            Thinking a bit more, eating any protein or carb will stimulate insulin which inhibits lipolysis and promotes esterification (storage of fat dominates). This is quite normal and should not be feared. It is only a problem when insulin is chronically high. Limit the number of times you eat each day and there will be plenty of time during the day when insulin is low enough for fat burning to dominate and fat loss ensues.

            In other words, don't sweat the insulogenic effect of gelatin, just eat three square meals per day
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            • #66
              Hahaha Keto rage is a joke from another thread. And I will adjust my stance on that weird smell thing- it didn't just happen to me when I was VLC- it happens when I eat too much meat. Meatsweats, period. For ME.


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              • #67
                Originally posted by Kikiperpie View Post
                And so I am at the start of my journey again
                It's as I said, with insulin, and gelatin, they suppress lipolysis and the concentration of free fatty acids in the bloodstream decreases. It doesn't hinder fat loss.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by moluv View Post
                  Hahaha Keto rage is a joke from another thread. And I will adjust my stance on that weird smell thing- it didn't just happen to me when I was VLC- it happens when I eat too much meat. Meatsweats, period. For ME.


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                  Here's how weird I am. I am not nor have I been VLC. So I should shut tfu and allow all of you to duke it out. I swear..if I were a country, I would be SLD.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by oceangrl View Post
                    Here's how weird I am. I am not nor have I been VLC. So I should shut tfu and allow all of you to duke it out. I swear..if I were a country, I would be SLD.

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                    You're the only normal one here
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                      You're the only normal one here
                      I actually am touched that you said that. Now I will slink off before you change your mind.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by oceangrl View Post

                        No more arguing. Deal?


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                        Deal. Just so long as you know I'm taking a screenshot of this and will use it anytime you start up again



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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by moluv View Post
                          Deal. Just so long as you know I'm taking a screenshot of this and will use it anytime you start up again



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                          Omg..go for it girl.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
                            I tried to read some Peat, and it was like cheap sci-fi. He expects the reader to just trust his story. Very odd stuff.
                            How is that different to Mark sisson, robb wolf and Gary taubes? He cites his work but there's also a bunch of sources you can check on topics like gelatin. I'm prety sure Taubes and sisson spread more half truths or even lies than Ray peat.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
                              I tried to read some Peat, and it was like cheap sci-fi. He expects the reader to just trust his story. Very odd stuff.
                              Originally posted by Forgotmylastusername View Post
                              How is that different to Mark sisson, robb wolf and Gary taubes? He cites his work but there's also a bunch of sources you can check on topics like gelatin. I'm prety sure Taubes and sisson spread more half truths or even lies than Ray peat.
                              Care to cite specific links or quotes of these "half truths or even lies" spread by sisson? Ya know, this being his forum and all...
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Betorq View Post
                                Care to cite specific links or quotes of these "half truths or even lies" spread by sisson? Ya know, this being his forum and all...
                                You know that whole carb curve and insidious fat gain thing...

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