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  • Perfect Ketosis Diet

    So....what is the perfect diet for getting one's body into the state of ketosis?

    Does it depend on the person?
    44 F 5'5
    SW 205.4
    CW 180.4
    GW 150

  • #2
    You can fast for two or three days to kick start things if you want... I've done that once or twice.

    Also, MTCs are your friend.
    "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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    • #3
      MTC - what is that???
      44 F 5'5
      SW 205.4
      CW 180.4
      GW 150

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      • #4
        MCT*

        medium chain triglycerides ie; coconut oil
        Make America Great Again

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kris T View Post
          MTC - what is that???
          Derp is right. MCT. Typo! *facepalm*

          MCTs are medium chain saturated fats that convert to energy very efficiently. They almost always become ketones at some point down the line. Will they put you in ketosis? Probably not on a large scale, but they can tip the balance in favor of it if ketosis really is your goal.
          "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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          • #6
            Keto-foods I use:

            Grass-fed beef
            Free range chicken and eggs
            Wild caught fish and shellfish
            Grass-fed butter
            Grass-fed cheese
            Coconut oil
            MCT oil
            Heavy cream
            Olive oil
            Sea salt
            Avocado
            Non starchy veggies
            Olives
            Macadamia nuts
            Beef tallow
            Berries (low glucose)
            Last edited by Paleo0731; 09-08-2013, 08:32 PM.

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            • #7
              This video says it all.

              Steak and Eggs - YouTube

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kegas76 View Post
                This video says it all.

                Steak and Eggs - YouTube
                You have to watch your protein intake to achieve ketosis. Too much protein can push you out.

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                • #9
                  That's my problem with the idea of ketosis: you have to have moderate proteins and mostly rely on fat for energy. I don't pretend to know whether it is healthy and I know from what I read that it helps for certain brain conditions or in the presence of a tumor (cancerous cells feed mostly on glucose ... but someone can chime in if this is wrong). However, you deprive yourself from some very good foods which would kick out of ketosis. I think that if the ketotic state exists, it means that it has been necessary in the past. Today, with the easy access to foods (for most people in rich places - far from obvious otherwise), ketosis has little chance to happen. Is it desirable ? I don't know. But once in a while, it is probably not a bad thing to experience it.

                  OK, that was a long babble, and probably a bit tangential to the topic ...

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                  • #10
                    are there any mct that do not involve coconut oil or palm oil?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by phigment View Post
                      are there any mct that do not involve coconut oil or palm oil?

                      Butter contains medium chain fatty acids.

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                      • #12
                        Hmm so these medium chain fatty acids actually makes glucose levels balance and not cause insulin spike?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by imp View Post
                          Hmm so these medium chain fatty acids actually makes glucose levels balance and not cause insulin spike?
                          I guess fats never cause insulin spike as fats have another metabolic pathway (lymphatic system, or am I confused ?)

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                          • #14
                            The Islets of Langerhans in your pancreas react to rising blood glucose concentrations by secreting insulin. Insulin acts to make muscles and fat cells suck the glucose out of your bloodstream and into muscle and fat tissue (simplified but more or less accurate.) Eat carbos, they turn to glucose and get absorbed, make insulin.

                            I don't believe the pancreas reacts to fatty acids of any length (short, medium, or long) to make insulin.

                            Medium chain triglycerides (MCT) seem to go straight to ketones via a different path than long chain triglycerides so MCT can give you a "ketosis kick."

                            If you want to look at a well formulated ketogenic diet, try "The New Atkins for a New You," the induction phase. In summary, protein at breakfast, lunch, and dinner, the portion is about the size of the palm of your hand. No sugar. No starchy vegies. No fruit to start with. Green leafy vegies, broccoli, summer squash (no winter squash, too many carbs.) There are a LOT of vegetables that are just fine. Fat is fine as long as it's not trans fats (anything that says "partially hydrogenated" on the label is out.) Saturated fat does not seem to do you any harm unless you combine it with a lot of carbohydrates.

                            As you learn how your body reacts, you might add back in some berries like blue, black, straw, raspberries. Maybe an ounce of nuts. Some of us can't stay in ketosis with 30 gm/day of carbs, some can do 70 gm/day. The only way you find out is experiementing on yourself.

                            Doc Jim
                            10/2/12: 169 lbs, 37"waist
                            Now: low 150's, 33" waist
                            Blog: http://paleopathologist.com/

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                            • #15
                              But I still am struggling with understanding HOW you know you are in ketosis. Is it the smell of breath?? Do you actually feel it, or just going by the diet?

                              I have had a strange 'smell' to me for the last few weeks and I was told it could be ketosis. I am hoping so. No grains, no processed foods, no sugar for 3 weeks. No dairy for 9 days.

                              Everything I eat is fresh and not packaged. GF as much as I can. I put together my own spices even, so no preservatives at all of any kind.

                              Hoping to be in ketosis for a while and get some weight off and body cleaned out. Just not sure if I am or not....
                              44 F 5'5
                              SW 205.4
                              CW 180.4
                              GW 150

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