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  • #31
    Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
    150 g of meat. Is that net meat?
    But, how much meat are you doing daily?
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    • #32
      Originally posted by biko View Post
      I can't do the half a cow a day + 40 eggs, my body will protest after like 2 days.
      2 days? My body would protest just looking at that.

      I would say you're starving yourself of meat. As for carbs, by strict Primal they are a little high. But if you're not gaining any weight and/or you work the carbs off, then it works for you.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by FrenchFry View Post
        It would be too simple. In France, we can be high carb high fat but french arteries are doing much better than other western arteries! What counts is the TYPE of fats and carbs. High refined sugar + high PUFAs are not a good combo ...
        Nooooo - You guys are just all doing the Dukan Diet--that's why you are all skinny!

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        • #34
          Some of you are speaking about PUFAs, are any of you eating avocados? Just curious as I tried to eat close to a full avocado a day.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by biko View Post
            But, how much meat are you doing daily?
            You'd sweat hard if you knew how much meat I eat in a day. Many, many hundreds of grams. But I'm trying to gain weight, so that's neither here nor there.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by oxide View Post
              2 days? My body would protest just looking at that.

              I would say you're starving yourself of meat..
              What would be a 'healthy' amount then by primal?
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              • #37
                Originally posted by paint94979 View Post
                Some of you are speaking about PUFAs, are any of you eating avocados? Just curious as I tried to eat close to a full avocado a day.
                A whole avocado is something like 2-3g polyunsaturate (same as 2 tbsp olive oil). If we're aiming for <10g/day it's not zero but certainly no dealbreaker either.
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                • #38
                  Carbs nor fat make you fat. This is the biggest mistake people make. Carbs are used for energy. There's no such thing is carb sensitive. That's all myths and "broscience" I eat tons of carbs a day.

                  People gain weight because their eating more than what there maintenance level a day is. Iv lost 80lbs eating ton of carbs. That's why tracking what you eat is very important and can do wonders for you on losing weight.

                  Lost make mistakes on slashing there calories way to much to start out with, once your bodies metabolism adopts to it you then stop losing weight and then have to drop it even more to the point where your barely eating anything and staving.

                  Once that happens people tend to give up and start eating like they used to and in result put on more weight then when they originally started. Why, because the body metabolism is already adapted to such low amount, now your shocking it with a huge load again.

                  It cracks me up to hear and see People doing all these super low carb diets and sugar and fat etc... Fats are super important with testosterone in men. Protein another important thing and most people don't eat enough.


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                  • #39
                    Get at least 0.7 gram protein per pound of body weight and at least 10% of calories from healthy fat! Everything else depends...
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                      You'd sweat hard if you knew how much meat I eat in a day. Many, many hundreds of grams. But I'm trying to gain weight, so that's neither here nor there.
                      Meatsweats. It's a real thing.


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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                        Get at least 0.7 gram protein per pound of body weight and at least 10% of calories from healthy fat! Everything else depends...
                        Is 150g of protein a day really needed? What benefits at 150g over say.. 100g? Your muscles certainly can't utilize that much for muscle gains on a daily basis from what I understand. There must be a point of diminishing returns. I am 190lb and I have trouble taking in over 150g on a daily basis and I don't see a difference between weeks where I average 80-110g. I find if I hit such high protein daily for weeks I am eating a way specifically to hit that number and not eating what I feel like.
                        Last edited by statikcat; 09-05-2013, 08:48 PM.

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                        • #42
                          The issue with "low carb/low fat" and "high carb/high fat", as well as every other possible combination, is that it's just arithmetic that the numbers always add up to 100% of intake.

                          Given adequate calorie intake, a "low fat/low carb" diet would be extremely high in protein (aka "rabbit starvation"), while a "high fat/high carb" diet would be too low in protein. Reducing carb energy calories means fat would be increased to compensate, or vice versa.

                          A "low fat/low carb" weight loss diet I ran across on the web last week was basically a starvation diet favored by the pro-ana crowd.

                          People toss these terms around like they are independent and unrelated. They are not.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by moluv View Post
                            Meatsweats. It's a real thing.
                            Damn right it is. I'm talking about third-party friggin' meatsweats. No homo.
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                            • #44
                              You need protein to maintain/build muscle. High carb/High fat/low protein will let you lose weight given adequate caloric restriction, but you'll be losing muscle too. That sucks because it then just keeps your metabolism in a spiral downward. The best scenario is to be able to gain muscle while losing fat which requires protein.

                              FYI, this is how I spent 20 years as a very active, very obese "healthy" eater. High carb, some fats, not nearly enough protein. Never saw huge improvements in strength or athletic ability. And honestly, my first stint on Primal was good, but I didn't see much in terms of improved body composition. Now I eat protein first, then carbs, then fats and boom, my body composition is rapidly changing with the help of working out.

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                              • #45
                                My transformation is. Prime example of high carbs fats and protein ImageUploadedByMarks Daily Apple Forum1378471945.124932.jpg


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