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  • #76
    your opinion is moot cause you're a girl

    i voted before i posted, in case anyone thought i just wanted to be a dick

    i don't binge on lower carbs unless i'm drinking diet soda, then i'm never satisfied. when i eat higher carb of any kinda carb in any mix of plates, i always want more food either right after or an hour after
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    • #77
      Binge on what? Typically my mum would bake a nice gluten/wheat free cake one a week or so, so I would eat lots of that. But thats inclusive of low carb paleo.
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      • #78
        Wifey and I were on a stay-cation this week. We've been pretty much 90pct paleo but we went to our fave french restaurant in Cold Spring NY...we crushed a bread basket, and loved it! We felt it the next day but we did our WOD and felt a ton better.

        Then, back to primal lifestyle. We loved it, loved the WOD the next day, love the primal diet...until our next treat. It's not how much you cheat, but how you feel. Our focus is on living Primal, we've never felt better.

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        • #79
          Well, I was unable to answer the poll because it's not specific enough. At around 100g/day, which I consider low, I did not binge. However, VLC (< 30 g/day) caused me to binge.

          Edited to add: I have to qualify this by disclosing that I have a history of bulimia although I recovered 14 years ago. I was slightly concerned that I was going to become bulimic again while I was doing a cyclic ketogenic diet--I was VLC during the week, and I'd carb up over the weekend to fuel my HIIT workouts. But the carb ups often turned into binges, and I'd purge, too, sometimes.
          Last edited by diene; 09-03-2013, 07:55 AM.

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          • #80
            Diene, if vlc = binge then click yes...

            Its ok though, i have my data.

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            • #81
              Alright, I voted yes.

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              • #82
                I clicked yes, however I am interested in lingo.

                How many grams is VLC?
                How many grams is LC?
                How many grams is moderate carb?

                Thank you

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Uselis View Post
                  I clicked yes, however I am interested in lingo.

                  How many grams is VLC?
                  How many grams is LC?
                  How many grams is moderate carb?

                  Thank you
                  According to TPB its something like VLC >30-50g, LC >100, moderate carb 100-150.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Uselis View Post
                    I clicked yes, however I am interested in lingo.

                    How many grams is VLC?
                    How many grams is LC?
                    How many grams is moderate carb?

                    Thank you
                    Thank you for recognizing the confusion over the lingo! I've asked people to list their actual g/day, and people have started to do that.
                    Meanwhile, this will start some arguments, but here's a starting point:

                    If you're Standard American Diet SAD (not Primal)

                    VLC = 100 g carb/day
                    LC = 150 g carb/day
                    Moderate = 200 g carb/day
                    Regular = 350 g carb/day from "heart healthy" whole grains.

                    If you're Paleo/Primal:

                    VLC = 25 g carb/day (ketosis)
                    LC = 50 g carb/day (Leptin reset)
                    Moderate carb = ~100 g carb/day (I consider this to be "regular" Primal)
                    Upper limit = ~150 carb/day (a little more if you're very active)
                    Not Primal = Above 150 g carb/day (even if your food is whole and unprocessed.)

                    [NOTE: there are people who cycle between 50 and 150-200 g carb/day because of their workout schedule. I'm not sure how to classify that.]
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                    • #85
                      I've never had a binge problem. If I overeat, it's always very conscious and I can link often link it to not having eaten enough earlier in the day.
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                      • #86
                        I naturally can eat a ton so I don't know if it qualifies as a binge....

                        But I haven't eaten a shit ton of crappy food (if that is your definition of a binge; I can still eat a ton at a Brazilian grill buffet on meats) since starting to eat paleo,*** regardless of carb intake. **

                        I used to be able to eat a whole large bag of Lay's or half a cake but now that just seems gross. I can barely finish half of a cupcake.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by oxide View Post
                          Not Primal = Above 150 g carb/day (even if your food is whole and unprocessed.)
                          My name is Moluv and I am not primal.

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                          • #88
                            I binge on a 14-15 day cycle; almost like clockwork.
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                            • #89
                              IMO, the reason the carb curve is only a guide and not something carved in stone is because one should be paying more attention to percentage of calories from carbs (or whatever macro is being dealt with). In Mark's Low Carb Sample Menu | Mark's Daily Apple, he gets ~17% of his 2500+ calories from carbs. That's about 425 calories or about 106 grams of carbs.

                              If I eat the same number of carbs and 425 calories from carbs in my 1500 calories per day, my percentage becomes 28%. A monster body builder eating 4500 calories a day would be getting less than 10%.

                              One issue is trying to look at absolutes for entire populations. So in that sense, yes, the carb curve was an error. It probably should have been done in percentages.

                              As to what is Primal, that is by definition whatever its creator says it is. 80/20 is a huge leeway. Saying CAFO animals are okay is huge. By those two parameters, Primal isn't much different than any other lower than SAD carb eating plan. But it's a business, and you can't sell something that's too hard to the masses. Hell, you can't even get most of them to stay away from McDonald's.
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Nivanthe View Post
                                I haven't had a trip to Whole Foods pastry section to "Buy all the things" since I backed off of primal's definition of VLC or LC.
                                and here i was, thinking i was the only one who raided the whole foods baked goods section...

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