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  • #46
    Quick update...Been doing the recommended 1TBS potato starch (mixed in yogurt) since Monday and have seen absolutely zero difference. Maybe just need to give it more time? Should I increase starch dosage?

    Thanks

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    • #47
      Originally posted by rkm View Post
      Quick update...Been doing the recommended 1TBS potato starch (mixed in yogurt) since Monday and have seen absolutely zero difference. Maybe just need to give it more time? Should I increase starch dosage?

      Thanks
      This weekend, up it to 2-3TBS/day. It definitely takes a bit of time, your gut microbes need to adjust themselves. Here is an interesting study, if you like reading such things. In it, they compared using natural resistant starch vs. manmade RS.

      RS Study

      Out of the six subjects that showed an increase in Bifidobacterium adolescentis with RS4, five did also manifest an increase with RS2 [potato starch is RS2]. However, RS2 induced a slower gradual increase with higher proportions in week three of consumption when compared to week one.
      In this study, they used 33g/day of RS. 1TBS of potato starch contains about 8g. 4TBS is 32g, but most people really get to farting on 4TBS if taken too quick, hardly anybody does at 2TBS. Your mileage may vary.

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      • #48
        Thanks Otzi...Not being a patient guy in the least, today I just decided screw it and went right to 3TBS potato starch (mixed in yogurt). I thought for sure there was going to be an explosion, literally, but here I am 3 hours later and, well, nothing, nada, zilch. Everything is very (strangely) quiet down there. Not sure what to think. Maybe the calm before the storm?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by rkm View Post
          Thanks Otzi...Not being a patient guy in the least, today I just decided screw it and went right to 3TBS potato starch (mixed in yogurt). I thought for sure there was going to be an explosion, literally, but here I am 3 hours later and, well, nothing, nada, zilch. Everything is very (strangely) quiet down there. Not sure what to think. Maybe the calm before the storm?
          Actually, I'd say you will be fine. It is probably indicative of poor gut microbes that you haven't gassed up, give it a few days. From what i've read and seen, it takes 3 weeks for things to completely even out. It's cheap, what your doing, and safe, so what have you got to lose?

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          • #50
            Thanks...Nothing to lose, and not concerned in that sense...But like I said, I am an impatient guy

            Flatulence or bust!

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            • #52
              Originally posted by quikky View Post
              I don't want my poop bulky. I want sculpted, chiseled poop.
              I want poop that can do my tax returns, or write a novel.
              Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

              Griff's cholesterol primer
              5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
              Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
              TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
              bloodorchid is always right

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              • #53
                OP, you didn't list dairy free as one of the things you tried. The microscopic colitis family can usually be managed by 100% removal of problem foods. The most common problems are gluten, dairy and soy in that order. You usually need to be 100% free of all your problem foods.

                The diet you listed earlier suggested you were gluten free, but not dairy or soy free. Note that chocolate often contains soy lecithin as well as dairy. If you are after a quick fix, try removing these three items from your diet 100% -check supplements and cosmetics for unexpected sources - and see how you go. You can continue to take the potato/tapioca starch/chia seeds etc.

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                • #54
                  Hello Bifucus...Thanks for feedback.

                  Indeed, I am gluten and soy free. And, up until the start of my little "experiment" this week (potato starch), I was 100% dairy free with the exception of grass-fed butter. Of course I started consuming yogurt this week, but my issue existed without the yogurt.

                  Do you think the butter could be an issue? Please don't take away my butter!

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                  • #55
                    Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                    I want poop that can do my tax returns, or write a novel.
                    This guy who used to do my taxes turned out to be a piece of sh!t, you want his address?
                    Black magic specialist in bangladesh

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                    • #56
                      I have a similar problem to OP. I've been taking about 1TBS of tapioca starch (had some at the back of my cupboard) for the last few days and have definitely noticed an increase in gas with no improvement in poo quality so far. I will certainly give it some more time, but I just wanted to share my experience.

                      Also, the bag of tapioca starch that I have is open and kind of old (sell by date is 5/2013). It had been stored in a larger ziplock bag. Does tapioca starch go bad? Looks and smells fine, but maybe I should get a new bag?

                      Edit: Just noting that I've been taking the tapioca starch along side my daily glass of homemade kombucha. I started making kombucha about a month ago and has seemed to help with this problem, but hasn't solved it all the way.
                      Last edited by yankfade; 08-30-2013, 10:44 AM.

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                      • #57
                        Have you tried eliminating eggs? I had to stop eating eggs to help my gut heal.

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                        • #58
                          Originally posted by yankfade View Post
                          I have a similar problem to OP. I've been taking about 1TBS of tapioca starch (had some at the back of my cupboard) for the last few days and have definitely noticed an increase in gas with no improvement in poo quality so far. I will certainly give it some more time, but I just wanted to share my experience.

                          Also, the bag of tapioca starch that I have is open and kind of old (sell by date is 5/2013). It had been stored in a larger ziplock bag. Does tapioca starch go bad? Looks and smells fine, but maybe I should get a new bag?

                          Edit: Just noting that I've been taking the tapioca starch along side my daily glass of homemade kombucha. I started making kombucha about a month ago and has seemed to help with this problem, but hasn't solved it all the way.
                          As long as the tapioca starch is dry, it should last forever. If it gets damp and clumpy I'd get some new stuff.

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                          • #59
                            Originally posted by otzi View Post
                            As long as the tapioca starch is dry, it should last forever. If it gets damp and clumpy I'd get some new stuff.
                            Cool, thanks.

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                            • #60
                              Originally posted by rkm View Post
                              Quick update...Been doing the recommended 1TBS potato starch (mixed in yogurt) since Monday and have seen absolutely zero difference. Maybe just need to give it more time? Should I increase starch dosage?

                              Thanks
                              First, thanks for starting this thread! I've had the same problem as you since late teens, gradually worsening until by late 50's mornings had to be spent at home! Nothing worked, though paleo made me feel so much better in other ways.

                              1 week ago I read about chia seeds, soaked, so I've been grinding 2 teaspoons of chia seeds and mixing with milk kefir or water, leaving to thicken and then drinking the jellied stuff! The result is MIRACULOUS! I shall be able to go abroad again! (Airports in the morning were not possible!)

                              And now I'm going to start taking Otzi's recommended tapioca or potato flour with kefir - I'm sure with this, in time I'll be able to ditch the Chia seeds. Magic!

                              Thanks again for posting, and for all the wonderful replies.

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