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    My wife is very overweight, and her doctor has given her the convention wisdom diet- low fat and has recommended cardio. Does anyone have experience with very heavy people having success using the primal blue print. I am having a hard time convincing her, because she respect doctors so much. I have lost weight and feel great but nothing spectacular. I am down 20lbs since December. My wife needs to lose around 80lbs to be healthy, would the primal blue print work or should she follow the Doctor because he is the "expert" I am kind of looking for a web page or success story of a very heavy person having success using the primal blueprint.

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    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/where-are-they-now/
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/where...y-now-round-2/
    for example
    challenge yourself
    i blog here http://theprimalwoman.blogspot.com/

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    • #3
      i am/was in the same "need to lose 80lbs" but then again, at 240, i carry it pretty well. i can tell you that once or twice a week of lifting heavy things for no more than 20 minutes, i've gotten sufficient exercise.

      NO DOCTOR WORTH HIS SALT can look you in the eye and tell you a diet of vegetables, meat, and fruit is bad. you're cutting out the processed stuff is all. It's all in how you phrase it. (Doc, would a diet of organic veggies, meats, and fruit for around 1800 calories a day work?) that's what we're intended to eat, plain and simple..

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      • #4
        Eat healthy foods and not be in caloric excess, exercise definitely accelerates weight loss too.

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          I've lost 80+lbs so far.. theres plenty of people who were very over weight doing this.

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          • #6
            I've dropped about 90 pounds since August and I still have about 70 more to go. I did it eating Primally and not even exercising very much at all.
            Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

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            Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

            My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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            • #7
              There are many people here who have begun the PB needing to lose at least 80 lbs or more. If you go over to the Journal forum you could be reading our stories for days. I started last year with a total of 86 pounds to lose. I still have 55 to go, but I feel great, have more energy than I have in years, and I'm excited about the years ahead living with new health and vigor. Here's my journal if you and your wife want to see what's working for me: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ron-in-Seattle)

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              • #8
                Your wife's doctor is no 'expert.' Most doctors have--at most--a couple of weeks instruction in nutrition in medical school, and that's mainly the conventional American diet--whole grains, etc. that we all know is flawed. They are programmed to advise 'low fat' because that's today's conventional wisdom--and it's wrong.

                Over the past few years, I've lost about 160 lbs (down from 340). Most of that was before I discovered primal, but I was eating very much like primal with low carb, no processed foods. In fact, the only change I made with primal was substituting almond butter for peanut butter (my only 'treat'). I'm hypothyroid, so I have my blood checked every 4 months. Not only have I lost weight, but all my blood values are great, and at age 68, the only Rx I take are for my thyroid.

                This is the healthiest way of eating for your wife--and for everyone.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TonyE View Post
                  My wife is very overweight, and her doctor has given her the convention wisdom diet- low fat and has recommended cardio. Does anyone have experience with very heavy people having success using the primal blue print. I am having a hard time convincing her, because she respect doctors so much.
                  What about *not* convincing her but instead just making it happen? Is there time in your schedule to make meals? The diet is primarily vegetables (visually anyway...not in terms of percentage of calories) so it seems that simply preparing food, she'd be unlikely to be averse to eating non-starchy produce with some meat.....

                  And get her some vitamin D asap - **in the absence of daily midday summer sun** with nearly full body exposure and no s/s, to the point just before burning, most will need 1000 IU vitamin D3 daily per 25 lbs body weight. Do test levels though to double check.


                  p40 TPB
                  "The gathering of berries and other fruit, leafy greens, primitive roots, shoots and other vegetation, nuts and seeds provide the bulk of Grok's food supply." (emphasis mine)

                  p110 TPB
                  see food pyramid: based on his writings in the book and online, and the evidence available regarding a primal diet or diet in our environment of evolutionary adaptation, in terms of volume, indicates that significantly more nonstarchy plant matter makes up food intake than does protein or fat....though in terms of percentages protein and fat dominate as they are more calorically dense

                  p.112 TPB
                  "'it may take some acclimation to center your diet around vegetables....snip....Dont follow the example of restaurants that serve skimpy vegetable portions seemingly just for decoration; serve yourself heaping portions that crowd everything else on your plate" (emphasis mine)

                  p.111
                  "Plant foods..naturally promote a beneficial balance between acidity and alkalinity..inyour bloodstream. Almost all cells prefer a slightly alkaline environment to function properly, but many metabolic processes, including the normal production of cellular energy, result in the release of acidic waste products. The buildup of acidic waste is toxic to your body so ti works very hard at all times to preserve a slightly alkaline environment, measured by the familiar pH levels."

                  All the best,
                  Katherine
                  Last edited by cillakat; 05-04-2010, 07:19 AM.



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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jermicide View Post
                    NO DOCTOR WORTH HIS SALT can look you in the eye and tell you a diet of vegetables, meat, and fruit is bad. you're cutting out the processed stuff is all. It's all in how you phrase it. (Doc, would a diet of organic veggies, meats, and fruit for around 1800 calories a day work?) that's what we're intended to eat, plain and simple..
                    I COMPLETELY agree with this.

                    I've lost 30 lbs so far (15 on Atkins, 15 more on PB) and feel better, look better and have more energy than I've had in years. I've got 30 more to go and it's PB all the way for me. My recent physical showed perfect numbers on everything except my Vitamin D, which I'm working to improve.

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                    • #11
                      thanks everyone

                      Thanks for the encouragement everyone. I needed that. I just do not want to recommend a way of eating when I myself am no expert. I lost 20lbs, from doing a primal sort of Atkins way of eating. I love the sprinting and lifting heavy things, as that is what I did in High school as a running back in football. All of my family members run marathons and eat low fat, so they think I am weird. The problem is I can not argue as I have only lost 20 and am in no condition to challenge conventional wisdom at this point. I know I am loosing weight and I feel great, but it has been slow, so it is hard to convene others. My brother lost 50lbs in the same time period by following a low fat diet and running everyday long distance. I must say I look better with more muscle, but it seems everyone compliments the people who loose the must weight. I would rather be fat then look like a skeleton. Thanks for the success stories everyone. You guys Grok and motivate me!!!!

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                      • #12
                        Absolutely. I started with 260lbs and am now down to 230lbs, and I would estimate my optimal lean weight at 190lbs (I'm 6 feet tall). So I also was 70lbs (or about 36%) overweight, and it worked very well - and I've only been on the diet for eight weeks. I think that the remaining 40lbs will take me at least another 8-12 weeks, but since this diet is so easy to maintain, I don't see what could go wrong. I also agree with what jermicide said: How could eating vegetables, meat and fruits be a danger to anyone's health? ;-)

                        Of course you need to consider her medical condition, too ... if she takes any medication (especially for blood pressure or cholesterol) she should be careful. Which could be difficult if her physician adheres to CW ... but then again, the patient has rights. :-)
                        Last edited by MikeEnRegalia; 05-04-2010, 08:13 AM.
                        MikeEnRegalia's Blog - Nutrition, Dieting, Exercise and other stuff ;-)

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                        • #13
                          I started off at 255 and am now 210, give or take. I am aiming for around 160, so I've a way to go (and am currently stalled: grrr), but I feel tons better than I did at the beginning. I no longer ache every day, inflammation is greatly reduced, strength is up (with a mere 4 minute per day workout), as is stamina (I do a 3.5 mile walk on Saturdays, which would have been unthinkable in 2008). My doc has issues with me as well, but she has no issues with the results. :-)
                          Started PB late 2008, lost 50 lbs by late 2009. Have been plateaued, but that thing may just be biting the dust: more on that later.

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                          • #14
                            I have been doing CW dieting forEVER!!!!!!! it did not work for me, and I never knew why until I researched the PB way of life and realized maybe grains were my problem.

                            I have a lot of weight to lose from yo-yo-ing for many years and this way of eating and living will totally help her drop weight and more importantly fat!!!

                            I had already lost about 20 lbs the CW way before starting PB and I started PB about April 1st, and have lost 26 lbs. Last month I lost almost 10 inches off my waist,hips,thighs,etc. I still have about 100 lbs to lose I think, depending how I look towards the end, but this lifestyle couldn't get more simple and fun. I forgot how fun it was to "exercise."

                            Have your wife check out the site and point her in the right direction as far as the success stories go, I don't think anyone can argue with eating veggies,meat and some fruit and in the process shedding un-wanted fat.

                            Good Luck to you both!
                            Went Primal: 3/28/2010 - 43 lbs lost!
                            Over 15 inches gone!

                            Primal Journal ~ Jadeocean

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                            • #15
                              I have lost a lot of weight as well (see my signature) eating meats, eggs, vegetables (including starchy ones), fruits and nuts. I don't count calories or carbs and my activity level must be low to moderate.
                              Height: 5'4" (1.62 m)
                              Starting weight (09/2009): 200 lb (90.6 kg)
                              No longer overweight (08/2010): 145 lb (65.6 kg)
                              Current weight (01/2012): 127 lb (57.5 kg)

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