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  • #16
    Originally posted by Boner View Post
    Just had my cholesterol tested the other day and was a little surprised at the results considering I've been paleo/primal (80/20, anyway) for almost a year.

    Total: 332 HDL: 119 LDL: 213 Tri: ? (received results via phone with doc and forgot to ask Triglyceride #)

    This is only the third time since 2004 I've had a lipid panel done. Past results:

    2004
    Total: 262 HDL: 65 LDL: 186 Tri: ?
    2012
    Total: 256 HDL: 72 LDL: 173 Tri: 55

    I'm a 34 year old male and weighing #145 (very lean) and have always had normal blood pressure i.e. never higher than 120/80. I exercise three times a week (cross fit / cycling).

    Just wondering if any gurus out there can help me make sense of my #s.........and YES, I eat/cook with coconut/coconut oil several times a week.

    Thanks
    Your trigs can be calculated from the others, presuming that the LDL was calculated using the Friedewald equation: LDL = TC - HDL - Trig/5. This puts your trig at 0, which is nonsense. This means the LDL number is actually your non-HDL (TC - HDL). You need to call back to get the Trig and check the LDL.

    However, your HDL is superb. If your Trig is below 100, I wouldn't be concerned about TC or LDL
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    • #17
      Originally posted by sakura_girl View Post
      Muppet, a little jealous here that your doctor is even considering giving you that test. Mine doesn't think I should, and recommended that I just "reduce [my] intake of saturated fats." :/
      You can also order it yourself through mdlabtests, think its $75.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by peril View Post
        Your trigs can be calculated from the others, presuming that the LDL was calculated using the Friedewald equation: LDL = TC - HDL - Trig/5. This puts your trig at 0, which is nonsense. This means the LDL number is actually your non-HDL (TC - HDL). You need to call back to get the Trig and check the LDL.

        However, your HDL is superb. If your Trig is below 100, I wouldn't be concerned about TC or LDL
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        • #19
          Oops, looks like I fail at polls.

          I hit "I don't eat CO and my LDL is low" instead of "I eat CO and my LDL happens to be low".

          Last year I went to the Dr. for the first time in several years for an unrelated issue and it turned out I had high BP which led to testing. My first lipid panel was (4/2012):
          HDL 25
          LDL 88
          Trig 48
          Total 128

          I just got my new lipid numbers(8/2013):
          HDL 33
          LDL 108
          Trig 35
          Total 148

          I've been using 2-3 tbsp of CO with my eggs every morning for at least the last 6 months. Between the two tests I had lost+40 lbs through a ketogenic diet. The CO most likely did not help my numbers but they clearly did not harm them.

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          • #20
            So no more CO for me I guess.
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            • #21
              I use coconut oil for cooking almost exclusively. I used to eat it by the spoonful too but haven't done that for a while. When I had my cholesterol tested at the end of April, my LDL was 69 mg/dL, which increased from 59 a couple years ago back before I went primal and before I ate coconut oil. However, my HDL has also increased (from 61 or 62 to 76), and my ratio has improved.

              To be honest, I don't think that diet has that much effect on cholesterol. It's mostly genetics. Either you're predisposed to have high cholesterol, or you're not. I'm not. So I bet I could eat lard by the bucket and still have low LDL.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by rory535 View Post
                You can also order it yourself through mdlabtests, think its $75.
                Too expensive LOL. Not really important to me at the moment, anyway.
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                • #23
                  Hi, I'm replying to an old thread. My TC and LDLs (and HDLs to a lesser extent) shot up on my latest cholesterol panel. I've recently added a fair amount of coconut oil to my diet.
                  Previously
                  TC 220
                  HDL 101
                  LDL 129
                  TG 67
                  Latest w/ CO
                  TC 300
                  Hdl 121
                  Ldl 164
                  TG 56
                  It appears we had similar bumps in numbers. I too am lean with very low blood pressure. Just curious - did you cut out the CO. If so, did your numbers change?

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                  • #24
                    I use CO daily as pretty much the primary oil. FWIW, We also use butter, olive, and avocado oil.

                    My LDL is high, but lower today than it was the last time I had the lipid panel done, about the time I started Primal back in 2012 when I was very SAD oriented. In my case, LDL has decreased, HDL is up, Tris are down. All my ratios are great.

                    I think when I go back to MD for another panel (probably in 6 mos) I'll knock out the CO about a month in advance to see if that has an effect, I like my new MD quite well, he's a younger, paleo-favorable type, but he is still antsy about the LDL thang. I personally think it's pretty much a tempest in a teapot.
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