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    It was recently mentioned in 'Dear Mark' and other nutrition sites, that kale contains oxalate and other anti-nutrients. I am highly irritated with this revelation because this was the one area I thought I was doing great in; cup of organic kale, some spinach with blueberries, primal fuel and coconut milk, blend and I have a primal breakfast.

    Now I'm worrying that without steaming or sautéing, which I have absolutely no time for in the morning, I am actually hurting my body.

    Does this fall into the 'don't sweat the small stuff' or is it a area for concern? I don't appear to be suffering from any of the common ailments associated with oxalate accumulation... What does the forum think?

  • #2
    I think it's a "don't sweat the small stuff" issue. Every food has some minor "defect" that makes it a concern in copious amounts. Kale's great stuff, and I vote keep eating it.
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    • #3
      Personal preference. If you actually like kale, then eat it. I think it's nasty and so I don't eat it and my health is not suffering as a result.

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      • #4
        Just cook it and it won't be a problem. The horrible taste on the other hand will always be a problem.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
          Just cook it and it won't be a problem. The horrible taste on the other hand will always be a problem.
          If I wanted kale broth, would it make any difference to juice it first and then cook it so I don't have to be bothered with straining the leaves?
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          • #6
            As long as you don't drink the juice, it'd probably be better.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
              As long as you don't drink the juice, it'd probably be better.
              Well, I'd eat it after it's cooked, does that count as drinking it? lol I would like to add it to bone broth.
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              • #8
                I developed a pattern of not eating the same food on consecutive days, mostly for variety/pleasure but it may be wise re: plant compounds too. If your diet is low in gut-damaging elements then oxalate is not likely to do much.

                If you're still concerned, bake it in vinegar and salt or sauté in lard.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by picklepete View Post
                  I developed a pattern of not eating the same food on consecutive days, mostly for variety/pleasure but it may be wise re: plant compounds too. If your diet is low in gut-damaging elements then oxalate is not likely to do much.

                  If you're still concerned, bake it in vinegar and salt or sauté in lard.
                  That's my theory as well. Whole food is great. The same whole food every single day, probably not so great no matter what it is.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by j3nn View Post
                    Well, I'd eat it after it's cooked, does that count as drinking it? lol I would like to add it to bone broth.
                    It's not as concentrated, so that's ok
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                    • #11
                      Dave Asprey (the bullet proof exec) says to lightly blanch or steam the kale and throw away the water, then eat the kale. As a lot of the oxalate leaves the kale by way of the water.

                      He said this in a Joe Rogan podcast as Rogan drinks a kale shake everyday. He also mentioned adding fat, but u can't remember if that was to improve the uptake of fat soluble nutrients or to help with the oxalate, probably the former.
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                      • #12
                        I 've been adding kale in my smoothies for a while with no obvious problems. I tried steaming after reading the Bulletproof blog and much prefer the more bitter taste of raw. Maybe it is because I add some pretty sour coconut milk kefir to the mix. Anyway, I'm going to assume that this is one of those "don't sweat every detail" things. In addition to the taste, it was more of a hassle to steam. I tried doing in batches and storing in the frig. Just too much extra work.

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