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  • What is it with nuts/seeds causing rapid weight gain?

    I have noticed that I gain weight fairly quickly and steadily if I incorporate nuts or seeds into my diet. I am pretty sure it's more of an inflammation/water type gain but truthfully it's hard to tell.
    I thought they were healthy? I like to have a small handful of raw pumpkin seeds or raw almonds here and there or even bake an almond cookie for the kiddos. I notice the next day I am up in weight because I feel bloated or just bigger and my clothes seem different.
    Why is this?

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    -Inflammation/water retention bloating
    -Just because a food CAN be good for you doesn't mean it IS good for you. You may have a sensitivity to what you are eating or perhaps your gut is too damaged to handle nuts & seeds.
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    • #3
      The Jaminets in Perfect Health Diet say that omega-6s make you fat. I can't remember the reason. But reading that put so bluntly was enough for me give up nuts. Since then, I've been reading how much Peat is against PUFA, so that just reinforces my decision.

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      • #4
        Anhydrous foods contain 4~6x the calories per bite as meats, roots, stalks, leaves, and fruits so if you're judging a "meal" by size you'll get quite a lot. And ya, tissues don't seem very interested in absorbing polyunsaturates so an overspill might end up in storage.
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        • #5
          I must say that water retention is an issue I've found frustrating to nail down. I get it periodically and the facial bloating makes a night-and-day difference in my appearance as well as adding several scale pounds. It doesn't ever seem to be as simple as 'too much salt' or 'eating too many carbs'--there are certain foods I suspect strongly including dairy, eggs, cashews, and dry-roasted almonds (all favorites, unfortunately). Dosages are important as well. Is it PUFA-derived inflammation? A specific allergy/sensitivity? I dunno. Vigorous exercise seems to trigger it occasionally too--always annoying, because you'd expect to look more lean & honed after a big workout, not puffy.

          The renal & adrenal endocrine machinery controlling this fluid balance (prostaglandins, aldosterone...) seems too intricate for me to understand, let alone control--so I just try to stick with the foods that work for me, take note of the offenders, and be willing to pay the price for lapses.
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          • #6
            1.) Nuts and seeds are extremely calorically dense. I suggest you go to:

            Nutrition facts, calories in food, labels, nutritional information and analysis – NutritionData.com

            Plug in eggs, chicken and walnuts. Find the column that shows "water." You'll find meats, fruits and vegetables are mostly water, allowing you to eat large volumes for little calories. Nuts, on the other hand, contain very little water. A small cup of nuts has more caloric value than an entire chicken breast or several heads of lettuce. Chocolate is less calorically dense than most nuts.

            2.) Nuts contain poor quality fats. They are very low in saturated fat, and often very high in polyunsaturated fat. The more unsaturated the fat, the more likely it'll be stored since they are the least "pro-metabolic" of the fats.

            3.) Dietary fat is almost always what makes us store fat. Protein is extremely unlikely to ever be stored as fat in a real-world scenario, though it can theoretically happen. Carbohydrate is very difficult to store as fat since it is first glycogen-partitioned, there is an associated metabolic rate increase with its consumption and then it must be converted into triglyceride through the (inefficient) process known as de novo lipogenesis. Fat is directly stored as body fat and there is no metabolic rate increase. When you overconsume calories, nothing is more likely to be stored around your belly, thighs and butt than fat.

            High calorie, high fat, low satiety, low nutrient value - this is why nuts and seeds are so fattening.
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            • #7
              Well they are rather delicious/nutritious so I can see overconsumption being an issue for some. They don't pack much of a volumetric punch, which is actually part of the reason I like them. I don't have to feel stuffed to the gills to get some tasty energy, but some people need that volume filling sensation in the stomach to tell them to stop eating. If thats you then you probably should lean toward more raw veggies to get that response.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                Fat is directly stored as body fat
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by accidentalpancake View Post
                  Primarily almost everything you consume is stored before being utilized. We all cary tens of thousands of calories with us as fat.... primal helps you better access those reserves rather than rely on a constant influx of carbs. So yes fats stored as fat... carbs as glycogen.... ect. Its really access to those energy stores thats important in maintaining health.

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                  • #10
                    If there was a big bowl of macadamias sitting out I'd have no problem accidentally eating a pound in a day. Seriously.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                      If there was a big bowl of macadamias sitting out I'd have no problem accidentally eating a pound in a day. Seriously.
                      +1 the best! Fact.

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                      • #12
                        I had to vote nuts and their butters off of my island. I can't be trusted. The only nuts I buy are cashews for a kale salad dressing. They are raw and in a bulk bin, so I only buy what I need.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by oceangrl View Post
                          I had to vote nuts and their butters off of my island. I can't be trusted. The only nuts I buy are cashews for a kale salad dressing. They are raw and in a bulk bin, so I only buy what I need.

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                          I've never been big on nuts but I do like peanut butter...but with primal nixing legumes and bread (for pbandj) I haven't been eating too much unless its a cookie or something that's off the plan in total. I did buy some almond butter and its pretty good but It's not something I want often.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by accidentalpancake View Post
                            Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
                            Well they are rather delicious/nutritious so I can see overconsumption being an issue for some. They don't pack much of a volumetric punch, which is actually part of the reason I like them. I don't have to feel stuffed to the gills to get some tasty energy, but some people need that volume filling sensation in the stomach to tell them to stop eating. If thats you then you probably should lean toward more raw veggies to get that response.
                            This is exactly it, accidentalpancake. Things are stored directly as what they are in the body before they are converted.

                            When you eat fat, it is directly stored as fat.

                            When you eat carbohydrate, it is directly stored as glycogen. Only in the unlikely event that glycogen stores are filled and de novo lipogenesis kicks in is it converted into triglyceride for storage. A grown man would have to regularly consume something like 700g of carbohydrate a day every day for days on end for DNL to be significant.

                            Protein is used for skeletal and muscular repair, hormone synthesis, etc. The amount of protein you'd need to eat every day for there to be conversion into fat is so massive you wouldn't be able to sustain it calorically. For all intents and purposes, protein won't be converted into fat except under extremely rare circumstances.

                            So yes, the best way to put on body fat is to eat fat since it is directly stored. Of course, you won't gain a net increase of body fat unless you're overconsuming calories. Things like meat and eggs are so rich in protein and water and so filling that they are difficult to regularly overeat and get fat off of, making them great tools for weight loss. Nuts and cheese, however, are very easily overconsumed and you can put on body fat rapidly. Hence, the fattening nature of said items. While carbohydrate is not inherently fattening like fat is, it will keep you from burning fat - high insulin and blood sugar creates the preferential burning of glucose instead of free fatty acids, meaning you won't be mobilizing much stored body fat when carbs are kept too high . So while it is more difficult to get fat eating a zero fat diet, it can keep you fat by preventing the release of fat stores. It all comes down to CICO in the end.
                            Last edited by ChocoTaco369; 08-07-2013, 05:15 PM.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by lea View Post
                              I've never been big on nuts but I do like peanut butter...but with primal nixing legumes and bread (for pbandj) I haven't been eating too much unless its a cookie or something that's off the plan in total. I did buy some almond butter and its pretty good but It's not something I want often.
                              It's funny but I have never been a big nut fan either. Back before I lost a bunch of weight, I had a horrible night foraging habit. I would make a peanut butter, butter and honey sandwich late at night. Gave that up and after discovering paleo and Whole 30, I thought it would be smart to have some macadamias in my freezer. WRONG!! I would walk past the freezer and grab a handful without even thinking twice. Those handfuls add up.

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