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  • #16
    Originally posted by CaliforniaGirl View Post
    Thanks for your message. I have made bone broth from chicken but never from fish. Once you make the stock, what kind of soups can you make with it? I have never tried fish liver but am open to it.
    You can add a wide variety of vegetables and seasonings to a basic stock to make soup. Just a matter of playing with recipes. I usually use fish stock to add a bit of flavour and nutrition to casseroles, but you won't be making those
    Four years Primal with influences from Jaminet & Shanahan and a focus on being anti-inflammatory. Using Primal to treat CVD and prevent stents from blocking free of drugs.

    Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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    • #17
      hi, ive bee a pescetarian for quite awhile and i do feel very good on it. im not gonna get into the details about my diet right now because its a work in progress and im still making additions lately. i get the tillapia from the store because its the only fish id be able to really afford on a regular basis. its pretty spendy still though i just stick to one bowl per day loaded with medicinal foods like turmeric, onion, garlic and red pepper. i used to douse it in sunflower oil but i recently switched to butter. i have added lots of saturated fats in my diet lately due to some of the advice on people on this forum... and i was also concerned about my cholesterol levels. you said that people on this forum have been posting ridiculously high personal cholesterol levels... can you tell me about that?

      but yes you should definitely be pescetarian, it arguably is the most healthy diet on the planet. just do research on third world countries and communities who live on fish, supposedly they have excellent health and life spans.

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      • #18
        w0gwnth, here are a few of the posts about members getting high cholesterol readings after being Primal.

        Originally posted by w0gwnth View Post
        i just stick to one bowl per day loaded with medicinal foods like turmeric, onion, garlic and red pepper.
        Yum. You just named four of my favorite things. I adore turmeric.
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        • #19
          I'm glad I saw this thread, I have been struggling with a similar feeling! My husband loves beef and would eat steak or a beef patty for every meal. I feel that I can only tolerate beef/heavy protein once in a blue moon, even though I try! I just can't get past the first few bites and then feel like I can't eat anymore. It's a hard feeling to explain, but when I eat fish I feel like its lighter, tastes better, and easier to cook. I have been struggling with this because I love the primal WOE and desperately wanted to fit in by being a steak eater! lol But seeing your post made me realize that others might feel the same as me and might enjoy fish as opposed to beef. I can't really stand chicken unless the skin is still in tact, even then its dry and tasteless. So if I don't eat chicken or beef, fish is my only other option! I do love bacon, eggs, sausage... most breakfast food But really just can't get past my recent distaste for beef. Don't feel that you are alone! Someone already mentioned to eat a variety... shrimp and crab are two of my favs, and I love salmon as well! And lobster when I can afford it I just am sure to eat lots of CO, butter, and avocado to get my fats in and I feel great!

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          • #20
            I would go ovo-lacto-peskatarian if I did not have to feed my family. The temptation to eat meat is too great as it comes fresh out of the oven/sow-cooker or off the fire. And, I love chicken and beef stocks. Lol, i know, I love food too much & that's my biggest problem.
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            • #21
              You should go for it. Seafood is very healthy, and if I lived near the coast, I'd eat it way more often. As it is, I eat canned fish (wild salmon, tuna or sardines) 3-5 days a week, and fish or seafood for dinner a few times a month (husband is not so into fish, though he loves seafood when we vacation near the ocean). Just watch your sources so you don't end up with too much mercury.

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              • #22
                Absolutely go for it - and I'm really glad to have read what you & others have posted. I used to be ovo-lac-pesc. of a sort but I think the other additions you talk about really have so much value for our health; meditation & spirituality. We all need that reminder.

                And little vase needs to make a cookbook! I thought we weren't supposed to use acids (lemon) in cast iron but hey, if it releases the iron, great! What area of PA are you located to go surf fishing? Or is that an abbreviation for a country .... not sure.

                “you aren't what you eat - you are what you don't poop.” Wavy Gravy

                Today I am Fillyjonk. Tommorow I will be Snufkin.

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                • #23
                  Thanks so much. Yes, LittleVase does need to make a cookbook. I am so excited to try the recipes.

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                  • #24
                    During our best fishing season (late spring to early fall) I come pretty close to being a pescatarian, I fish just about every weekend and usually have a decent haul. Its the weekends I don't have a good haul I end up eating lots of meat.

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                    • #25
                      Thanks, spk I live in PA and go to NJ every week. LBI specifically. Great fishing on the whole island!

                      I completely agree about the meditation and spirituality angle. I'm becoming happier every day and the less red meat I eat, the happier I feel. It's so great.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by little vase View Post
                        Thanks, spk I live in PA and go to NJ every week. LBI specifically. Great fishing on the whole island!

                        I completely agree about the meditation and spirituality angle. I'm becoming happier every day and the less red meat I eat, the happier I feel. It's so great.
                        Ahhh - I see! I have family all over PA (Pitt, Phil, Balt, etc.) and wondered if you were there too.

                        “you aren't what you eat - you are what you don't poop.” Wavy Gravy

                        Today I am Fillyjonk. Tommorow I will be Snufkin.

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                        • #27
                          Being a Pescatarian is very healthy, while grass-fed meats are very healthy too, you don't HAVE TO eat them. In fact, for awhile there, I was Pescatarian (not so much because I wanted to, I just wasn't craving meat).... I love clams and squid and mussels sauteed for lunch and salmon or any big thick fish fillet for dinner!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by little vase View Post
                            Thanks, spk I live in PA and go to NJ every week. LBI specifically. Great fishing on the whole island!

                            I completely agree about the meditation and spirituality angle. I'm becoming happier every day and the less red meat I eat, the happier I feel. It's so great.
                            I am from NJ and used to go to Long Beach Island quite often. It is a wonderful place. It must be great to go fishing there.

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                            • #29
                              Mark's info on tilapia: Grocery Store Seafood: What to Eat and What to Avoid | Mark's Daily Apple

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                              • #30
                                ... a little late to this, but I've been paleo/primal for about three years now and almost exclusively pesce-primal for the last year, or so. I still eat meat sometimes and do eat offals weekly.

                                My strategy is to eat a variety of white fish and oily fish. I'm blessed to have a great source of North Atlantic fish: pollock, cod, haddock, coley, halibut, salmon; Baltic: salmon, herring, sild; then the abundance of river fish: perch, hake and trout.

                                I swing by the farm shop and pick up a bunch of veggies, then the fishmonger for whatever is available, the supermarket for the bargains and we're set ... my local 'Chippie' also does about 3Kg of tails and scraps for £1 which is what the cats now eat. Don't neglect sea and clifftop vegetables, nor shellfish. Scallops, prawns, oysters ... all good.

                                In over a year, I've not eaten the same meal twice. Enormous variety is there to be had.

                                Eggs. Every day.

                                Dairy. I settled on goat and A2 type cow milk when I can find it raw. Cheese of all types is in, for me, cream and cream cheese. We eat Panna Cotta and Cheesecake a lot.

                                So that's me: lacto-ovo-pesce-primal.

                                I run a food blog if you want some ideas: Living in the Ice Age ... where I list me reasons for what I call "paleo+" here: Living in the Ice Age: What is Paleo+? and me reasons for going fishy here: Living in the Ice Age: Living in the Ice Age 2.0?

                                ... there is more to it, though. I abhor the practice of mechanised religious slaughter. I see captive bolt as the best method, but cannot be sure that they are applied in all religious slaughter practices, nor whether the meat that is not listed as religious actually is.

                                All meat is well tracked here in the UK, so I can look up the farmer and abattoir codes but it's not really practical at the point of purchase. So, I largely gave up meat.

                                Best of luck on your pesce-primal journey. I stress the primal part, since the primal approach is the key. I also found the "meat, meat and more meat" and "fat, fat and more fat" thing can easily be overdone. I think fish is better balanced for protein and fats than cuts of meat. When we eat a fish, we eat it all ... or at least most of it. Large animals are eaten as parts, and so the mass of muscle meat is often bereft of the fullness that we get from fish.

                                I do still "wet up" my meals with fat if it looks light, otherwise, work in an avocado for the extra fatty energy.

                                If fish, shellfish, eggs, some dairy and veggies are the materials, make Primal the brush and you'll have a wonderful picture.
                                Paul
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                                http://www.livingintheiceage.co.uk

                                "... needs more fish!"

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