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  • Primal with MOAR Peat: Food & Hormone Discussion (Ray Peat Followers)

    This thread is for Primal (and non-Primal) followers who incorporate a more Ray Peat-style of eating in their Primal or non-Primal protocol. Most of us know that Ray Peat's food suggestions mostly fall under the recommendations of The Primal Blueprint, with distinctive differences in carbohydrate amounts and quantities of other types of foods, e.g., dairy and gelatin. They both recommend avoiding gluten, high-PUFA seed and vegetable oils, and other toxins. The similarities are many, enough that Peat could be considered a higher-carb Primal diet.



    This thread is NOT a controversial or argumentative thread. Please refrain from making it one. This is a place for followers to share ideas about food and other health-related issues in relation to Primal and Peat, and to answer questions for those who are curious or are having problems. This is also not a thread to bash Primal! I think Peat and Primal are close enough to be considered virtually one in the same if you disregard macronutrient boundaries and customize them to your individual needs.

    I eat a combination of Primal, Perfect Health Diet, and Peat. Too high in fruits + carbs to be just Primal (Peat) and too high in starches to be totally Peat (PHD). I'm currently trying to minimize dairy (not Peat). I eat macadamia nuts and salmon sometimes (not Peat). We all have personal needs and goals and these can change often, but we can all agree to minimize industrial PUFA oils and other toxic artificial sources of poor-quality energy.

    How do you Peat? What is your diet like? Do you have hormonal issues? How has Peat helped you? Did you try Peat and it didn't work? Please share your experiences, and most importantly, YOUR FOOD! Post pictures and daily menus!

    ** Civil conversations, please **

    Visit the What Did You Peat Today? thread for more Peatly food ideas.
    Last edited by j3nn; 10-08-2013, 10:10 PM.
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    If anyone is struggling with low carb, this thread might help you

    Good work J3nn <3


    ETA: A lot of people were asking for daily menus, so we created a thread to share what we eat on a daily basis. What did you Peat today?

    J3nn also wants people to share recipes, but she forgets that we're all too lazy too cook
    Last edited by YogaBare; 09-07-2013, 01:33 PM.
    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

    - Ray Peat

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    • #3
      Originally posted by YogaBare View Post


      If anyone is struggling with low carb, this thread might help you

      Good work J3nn <3
      YogaBare and I both have estrogen dominance and progesterone issues. This is one of the biggest reasons why Peat caught our attention. It is not a diet about "chugging soda", it's about restoring or establishing hormonal balance and the foods that encourage or hinder that.

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      • #4
        I kind of did this accidentally because of the insanely warm summer here. Ate more fruit, ate more icecream and more dairy in general and it works quite well.

        Especially useful as a wakeup call for someone who did vlc without any refeeds, the cold hand and feet are gone and you are generally more active again. That said i did keto with weekly refeeds before and it works just as well, only the long term no carb stuff really doesnt do it for me.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Nekron View Post
          I kind of did this accidentally because of the insanely warm summer here. Ate more fruit, ate more icecream and more dairy in general and it works quite well.

          Especially useful as a wakeup call for someone who did vlc without any refeeds, the cold hand and feet are gone and you are generally more active again. That said i did keto with weekly refeeds before and it works just as well, only the long term no carb stuff really doesnt do it for me.
          I think keto has its place and time and it can work very well. I would totally do keto now and then; I do it in my sleep every night. But seriously, I think changing things up can be beneficial. Nothing wrong with experimentation. Find your rhythm!
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          • #6
            Ice cream.

            That is all.
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            • #7
              I have many Peat deviations, such as: bananas, avocado once in a while; I practice IF many days; I do strenuous cardio; I don't like consuming mostly liquids, and I use black pepper and pink Himalayan salt.
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              • #8
                No fish or sea foods? And salt/coffee does not contain energy, so I am not sure what the division of the orange mean?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                  No fish or sea foods? And salt/coffee does not contain energy, so I am not sure what the division of the orange mean?
                  I think the orange graph is incomplete. Peat is a huge fan of shellfish like oysters. Here is another chart, but keep in mind, there is no Peat diet, just recommendations so even this image doesn't cover everything.



                  He says tuna is fine eaten with homemade macadamia nut oil mayo. Chicken every 10 days or so. Bacon cooked in coconut oil. I think Peat can come in many variations and it's best to create your own.

                  GRAINS (BEST TO WORST)

                  Masa harina (best), white rice or oats, and brown rice. The phytic acid in the oats block absorption of much of the calcium; cooking the oats much longer than usual might improve its nutritional value. http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/...derstandi.html
                  Last edited by j3nn; 10-04-2013, 05:56 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                    No fish or sea foods? And salt/coffee does not contain energy, so I am not sure what the division of the orange mean?

                    Sea food should be on there. It's a major part of his recommendations - unless it's salmon.

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                    • #11
                      Just squeeshed a couple of organic oranges and drank it with my two soft boiled eggs sprinkled with salt and a big cup of coffee with a splash of jersey milk and some local raw honey in - pretty peatish

                      I can see that I eat alsomst everything he recommends (except Coca cola - don't like it - never have). But I would miss starches if I should follow Peat. And what are lychees and sapotas?? Let me eat some "normal" Scandinavian fruits like locally growing apples instead.
                      Take a walk on the wild side.

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for starting this thread!

                        I would like to ask why fruit and not starch?

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                        • #13
                          What's wrong w/ salmon? I'll take fresh wild caught sockeye over dirty farm raised shrimp. Maybe others have access to wild caught shellfish, but BP pretty much ruined that for the US.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by girlhk View Post
                            Thanks for starting this thread!

                            I would like to ask why fruit and not starch?
                            And the wheels keep on turning.... from the starch side of the tracks here is Jaminet on the subject:

                            Is It Good to Eat Sugar? - Perfect Health Diet | Perfect Health Diet

                            Higher Carb Dieting: Pros and Cons - Perfect Health Diet | Perfect Health Diet

                            I think the comments section gets really interesting in these little blog posts as you can see both sides hashing things out. I'm sure someone can post the Peat side of the fence here for you to peruse as well. I'm agnostic in carb source myself so no horse to back here.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by iconoclast79 View Post
                              What's wrong w/ salmon? I'll take fresh wild caught sockeye over dirty farm raised shrimp. Maybe others have access to wild caught shellfish, but BP pretty much ruined that for the US.
                              My understanding was that farm raised shellfish was not nearly as detrimental or as big an issue (probably due to low fat), but maybe a Peat person can verify.

                              Found this Wild versus Farm-Raised Oysters: Which are better? | W&T Seafood

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