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  • Originally posted by j3nn View Post
    Exactly what Derp said: Eat as much meat as you want, but try to get plenty of gelatin and bone broth with it, choose leaner cuts to minimize PUFAs. I don't eat like the other ones here, I'm a far-left Peatie. My menu is currently absent of dairy and eggs and coffee. I'm just going for low, low, low PUFAs, high nutrients from juices, fruit, liver and oysters, etc. I eat potatoes, rice, nixtamalized corn, and more cooked meals than these sugar bees. Kidding. They're my people and I <3 them.
    Thank you! I appreciate the tips

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    • I could listen to Dr. Peat talk all day long! Ray Peat and Bud Weiss - The Biology of Carbon Dioxide (Recorded on October 9, 2010) - YouTube

      Let's talk about CO2. After watching that video I want to take a trip to Germany for some Nauheim bath therapy. Not even kidding. How do you guys increase your CO2 production? Bag breathing? Anyone use CO2 therapy? I'm really interested in CO2 bag therapy, anyone have any idea for how long you'd leave it on for? Derp? Zach?

      This is all very fascinating.
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      • Originally posted by moluv View Post
        I just wanna throw this out for anyone reading who may even find that both of those options are cost prohibitive- chicken feet broth is straight up gelatin. You can't turn it into powder form but you could easily add some warmed broth (unseasoned) to milk and juice, obviously make soup. Chicken feet are like $2 a bag at the Asian/Mexican markets.
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        Oh em gee, that used to be my favorite meat when I was younger. That, and then beef tendon, jellyfish, and beef tripe. You remind me for wanting to make some in my crockpot soon.

        Originally posted by j3nn View Post
        Did you previously have food high in fat? It could be a reaction from a previous meal. Or just too much candy at once. What else was in it?!
        Hmmmm you might be right about the meal high in fat. I had some chicken soup right before that left a greasy feeling on my lips after I ate it. I ate these candies though:

        Gluten-Free, Organic Snack Pack Candy | Surf Sweets Sour Berry Bears

        Ingredient list doesn't look too bad? Organic Evaporated Cane Juice, Organic Tapioca Syrup, Organic Grape Juice Concentrate, Pectin, Citric Acid, Sodium Citrate, Malic Acid, Asorbic Acid, Colors Added (Black Carrot Juice Concentrate), Natural Flavors.

        Unfortunately, it disappointed plenty in sourness Looks like I can only make my own sour candies.
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        • Is tripe nutritious? My father used to cook it often; made the house stinky.
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          • Good question. I think you can probably find more nutrition in other meat parts. But it never really stunk for me, so not a big deal xD
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            • Tripe stinks. I cooked deer tripe yesterday and my 2-year-old was quick to say, 'mama, SMELL.'

              But I like the texture, and it's something different to eat once in awhile.

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              • Originally posted by girlhk View Post
                Tripe stinks. I cooked deer tripe yesterday and my 2-year-old was quick to say, 'mama, SMELL.'

                But I like the texture, and it's something different to eat once in awhile.
                Try the "tripes la mode de Caen" (famous middle-ages dish from Caen, the main city of Calvados in Normandie - France), should be better It was a favorite of William the Conqueror who used to drink an apple juice with it.

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                • Originally posted by girlhk View Post
                  Tripe stinks. I cooked deer tripe yesterday and my 2-year-old was quick to say, 'mama, SMELL.'

                  But I like the texture, and it's something different to eat once in awhile.
                  What's the texture like? I always imagined it's like squid!
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                  • Tripe soup was my favorite dish when I traveled to Romania many years back. They serve a hot pepper on the side, it's awesome! Never made it myself though.
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                    • Originally posted by Nivanthe View Post
                      I got my cortisol panel back from the doctor's today, and pretty much every female hormone in the panel is below the low range. DHEA is kind of low, and AM cortisol is at the very bottom of the range given, but the rest of the day is perfect. Also, my Armour dosage went up to 30mg now, from 15mg.

                      Estradiol ----- 1.2L (Range 1.3 - 3.3)
                      Progesterone - 51L (Range 75-270)
                      Pg/E2 ratio --- 42L (Range 100-500)
                      Just bringing this back out, curious if there anything special/specific, food-wise that could help bring these hormone up aside from what has been prescribed to me? Was given progesterone, DHEA, Pregnenolone, adrenal supplement for the AM.

                      I've recently incorporated gelatin, fruits, dairy (cottage cheese mainly) -- I had OJ for a while, but bought another brand that really broke me out all over my face, so i'm taking a break this week since i'm heading on vacation and need to look nice.

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                      • Just another note on aspirin: I read that if you take it with coffee it's like taking T3!

                        Also, does anyone (ie. Derp and Zach) know how to improvement tolerance to dairy? Danny Roddy suggests just eating it as much as possible but I've been eating it for three months now and it's still bloating me. Have been doing the milk with sugar too...

                        Originally posted by Nivanthe View Post
                        Just bringing this back out, curious if there anything special/specific, food-wise that could help bring these hormone up aside from what has been prescribed to me? Was given progesterone, DHEA, Pregnenolone, adrenal supplement for the AM.

                        I've recently incorporated gelatin, fruits, dairy (cottage cheese mainly) -- I had OJ for a while, but bought another brand that really broke me out all over my face, so i'm taking a break this week since i'm heading on vacation and need to look nice.
                        Hey Nivanthe At a glance, your results looks pretty similar to Paleomom's... why don't you pop into her journal, or send her a pm? She's on treatment and might be able to suggest something to you. How are you getting on with the Peat woe (other than the skin break out )?
                        "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                        In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                        - Ray Peat

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                        • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
                          Hey Nivanthe At a glance, your results looks pretty similar to Paleomom's... why don't you pop into her journal, or send her a pm? She's on treatment and might be able to suggest something to you. How are you getting on with the Peat woe (other than the skin break out )?
                          Pretty well actually, thanks! Also slowly yet steadily heading down on the scale while feeling very satisfied which was my #1 worry. Well, besides the new hormone worry. I was not getting breakouts with 1 brand of OJ, which was actually the publix store brand that I think they actually make fresh. Any of the others, even if it had nothing conspicuous in the ingredients, just did not react well with me.

                          And thanks for the suggestion, will do.

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                          • Originally posted by Nivanthe View Post
                            Pretty well actually, thanks! Also slowly yet steadily heading down on the scale while feeling very satisfied which was my #1 worry. Well, besides the new hormone worry. I was not getting breakouts with 1 brand of OJ, which was actually the publix store brand that I think they actually make fresh. Any of the others, even if it had nothing conspicuous in the ingredients, just did not react well with me.

                            And thanks for the suggestion, will do.
                            I'm sorry I don't actually have any advice. It can take a few weeks for the hormones to fully kick in, so be patient and be prepared to go bra shopping soon. My boobs really started growing!
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                            • Originally posted by PaleoMom View Post
                              My boobs really started growing!
                              Heh I was actually wondering about that after researching progesterone. I was always fine with the size of mine, but not the shape. I guess they're similar to what is called "shallow". I wouldn't mind if they filled out a bit!

                              And darn, i'm doing some bra shopping this upcoming week, will have to keep some funds in reserves

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                              • Yoga, what mind of milk are you drinking?

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