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  • #61
    Thank you.

    Straight milk is not something I think I can take a lot of, seeing I am a touch intolerant and always preferred fermented dairy. But I will try it, in hot chocolate if nothing else.

    I am planning my very first foray in a while into a late night class from 6:30 to 8 pm, so I am not gonna go there fasted, no way. If I do the first thing in the morning workout (5:30 or 7 am, depending when gym is opened) I do it on coffee or water. My response to fasting is mixed, but that's another discussion entirely.
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    When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Leida View Post
      Well, go figure. All organic dairy was on super-sale yesterday, so I got a little bit of skim milk (I am not sure I can tolerate it), cottage cheese with no goo and greek yogurt (yeah, I know). Planning apple and cottage cheese for breakfast. On a cardio day. Scary.

      The best thing is that my skin is not inflamed any more, so if dairy causes a break out, I will know and will be able to pinpoint which product it was - cottage cheese or plain milk. Yogurt was fine.

      Erm, sorry. I know you are having a philosophical discussion, I am more into exploring the practical question posted by the OP.
      I think it's funny that the OP hasn't even come back to see the answer to the question

      Looking forward to seeing how this works out for you Leida! I think what's really important is to have no expectations, as it seems to effect everyone differently. There's no magic bullet. I'm losing weight now, but it only started happening two weeks ago (I've been eating this way for five weeks).

      FWIW: I think the gelatine is the crucial part of this woe.
      "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

      In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

      - Ray Peat

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      • #63
        I had jellos set for last two nights, but forgot today. I'll try adding it to chicken tonight (I heat it up in water to generate 'broth'). I kindda gave up on losing weight tbh, even trying to see if I can resurrect my old hobby I gave up when my kiddo was ~ 3 yo. We'll see.
        My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
        When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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        • #64
          I'm looking for some Black pants and Nike athletic shoes.

          Ray Peat follower:

          • My eczema has come back already.
          • My 'brain fog' symptoms seem to be getting worse.
          • Physical and emotional energy is not as smooth/steady.
          • I get bouts of sweating where my clothes are soaking.
          Some of you may die, but that is a risk I'm willing to take.

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          • #65
            I get bouts of sweating where my clothes are soaking.
            Milk. I wouldn't drink milk in the morning/before activity.
            My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
            When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Black Timber View Post
              I'm looking for some Black pants and Nike athletic shoes.

              Ray Peat follower:

              • My eczema has come back already.
              • My 'brain fog' symptoms seem to be getting worse.
              • Physical and emotional energy is not as smooth/steady.
              • I get bouts of sweating where my clothes are soaking.
              Sorry to hear that, Black timber. What are you eating?


              Originally posted by Leida View Post
              I had jellos set for last two nights, but forgot today. I'll try adding it to chicken tonight (I heat it up in water to generate 'broth'). I kindda gave up on losing weight tbh, even trying to see if I can resurrect my old hobby I gave up when my kiddo was ~ 3 yo. We'll see.
              I reeeeally recommend an envelop of gelatine in coffee. Makes the coffee so creamy! And I really think it suppresses the appetite.
              "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

              In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

              - Ray Peat

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              • #67
                I'll give it a shot, I know you like it
                My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                • #68
                  I am open minded but admittedly not intelligent enough to wade through/decipher Ray Peat's writings. Is there any credible, semi organized condensation of his views/opinions/teachings that a lay person can read and understand? I would like to learn as I seem to do much better with more natural sugars and starches than Mark recommends.

                  Things that are a big turnoff about Peat & his followers to a padowan such as myself are his rambling writings, the raypeatforum where EVERYBODY has a different interpretation of Peat, and especially the Peat interpreters/evangelists on this forum who feel the need to preach instead of teach. (A bigger turnoff is when they try to deliberately insult/inflame with words like 'ketard'. I think I have learned a few things from the person who posted this word but it makes me wonder what his agenda is. I wonder if he would like the word peatard. )

                  Help me....I want to learn!

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                  • #69
                    You know, after chatting with the folks here, the figure on the 2nd page of this thread seem to describe it adequately. Reduce fatty meat consumption in favor of low fat dairy/white fish/lean seafood and gelatin to keep protein flowing and slash as many sources of the PUFA as possible (nuts, fatty fish). Enjoy fruit >>> often than veggies. Use non-gluten grains.

                    Honestly, it's far from revolutionary, probably very much along the lines of Cordain's Paleo for Athletes (which is probably a better source for science and structure).
                    My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                    When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by jackmormon View Post
                      I am open minded but admittedly not intelligent enough to wade through/decipher Ray Peat's writings. Is there any credible, semi organized condensation of his views/opinions/teachings that a lay person can read and understand? I would like to learn as I seem to do much better with more natural sugars and starches than Mark recommends.

                      Things that are a big turnoff about Peat & his followers to a padowan such as myself are his rambling writings, the raypeatforum where EVERYBODY has a different interpretation of Peat, and especially the Peat interpreters/evangelists on this forum who feel the need to preach instead of teach. (A bigger turnoff is when they try to deliberately insult/inflame with words like 'ketard'. I think I have learned a few things from the person who posted this word but it makes me wonder what his agenda is. I wonder if he would like the word peatard. )

                      Help me....I want to learn!
                      I suspect he doesn't give a shit about the word Peatard and like most people with a sense of humour finds it amusing, perhaps. Ketard did make me chuckle

                      But no there doesn't seem to be a condensation of his work per se, at least as far as I can ascertain. People have tried, but his work is not really intended to be a protocol or a 'diet'. There are guidelines of course. You need to go to raypeat.org and there you will find threads on what those guidelines are.

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                      • #71
                        does Ray Peat not have a forum/discussion area?
                        When I'd had enough of the grain and starched based 'diabetic eating for health' diet (eating for health, my ass!) my weight was 242.5 lbs. On starting primal- 18th April 2013 weight : 238.1.
                        27th July 2013. weight after 100 days 136.9 weight lost 101.2lb ; that's 105.6lbs since I stopped the 'diabetic eating for health'
                        new journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ml#post1264082

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by jackmormon View Post
                          I am open minded but admittedly not intelligent enough to wade through/decipher Ray Peat's writings. Is there any credible, semi organized condensation of his views/opinions/teachings that a lay person can read and understand? I would like to learn as I seem to do much better with more natural sugars and starches than Mark recommends.
                          Hey, I think this here is a great place to start:

                          Ray Peat Eating Guidelines : Semi Low-Carb Plans Forum : Active Low-Carber Forums

                          Edit: I like "ketard". I used to be one myself
                          Last edited by Graycat; 08-01-2013, 01:01 PM.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by CarbDodger View Post
                            does Ray Peat not have a forum/discussion area?
                            He has a few, yes.

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                            • #74
                              Jackmormon, I meant this https://www.raypeatforum.com/forum/

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                              • #75
                                Ketard is a term of endearment. I also like "Peatard", and I've been called it quite a few times.

                                Caffeine is a pretty integral part of following a Peat based diet, so, being a mormon and all, this might be an obstacle to overcome.
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