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  • #61
    I just realized that my dry skin issues are gone. My forehead used to be so dry that if I scratched it, little flakes would rain down like dandruff. Totally gone. No more dandruff either.
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    • #62
      Mmmm, there are traditional people drinking milk daily (Masai for example). What do you precisely mean by dairy and processed ? I don't think the French fared bad on their traditional cheese either ...
      DK - That does not make it okay. We're not biologically disposed to consume milk from another species. Why would we, when no other species on this earth does.

      The French still suffer from Western diseases. They just may "fare" better because their diet may not be as destructive as, say, American. The French eat "food", not packaged or processed garbage. But they still have diabetes and heart disease.

      Stay away from dairy - leave it for calfs to consume.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
        Something I just stumbled across :NOTMILK Poster: B for Breast Cancer

        is enough to make me decide to make the milk ban permanent around my house.
        According to this, humans produce more IGF-1 growth hormones themselves than there is in the milk we consume:
        Can the hormones in milk affect breast cancer? : Cancer Research UK : CancerHelp UK

        I have no idea if dairy is so unhealthy or not, but I really like it (organic cheese, milk, butter and sheep youghurt). I do have non-dairy days and have tried to go months straight without it. But after a while I just want it in my life again. I must be a weak soul But as long as I don't overdoe it, I really don't have problems with it.

        Besides, it seemes like everything can/will be 'debunked' and then the debunked things get debunked...Every-damn-THING. So frustrating - but also kind of liberating!
        Take a walk on the wild side.

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        • #64
          Happy to report that that 1/2 pound stayed off. Don't notice any other changes--sinuses are still whonky. Not being impatient or anything, just thought I'd relay the news and lack thereof =P

          I'm still getting too few calories, according to MyFitnessPal, but I'm really not hungry at all, so I'm not worried about it--after reading about EggGirl's experiment, I'm wondering if too few calories is even that big an issue. I'm only 200-300 calories short of what the site suggests, and still getting over 1100.

          I REALLY hope the grocery store is stocked with avocados today--sometimes they just don't have any. I think it would be a really good substitute for cheese, plus I just like avocado a lot. I like to combine cubed avocado with cubed cooked chicken in a bowl then add lemon juice, EVOO, salt, pepper, minced garlic, and dried cilantro.
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          • #65
            I kinda tapered the consumption of dairy. Two years ago, I stopped drinking my usual two glasses of milk. Then stopped cheese and yogurt. The only thing that still lingers is ice cream, which has become a rarity in general--maybe a bowl of it once in two months or so.

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            • #66
              Well, I cheated a little today. One of my co-workers brought milk, cookies, and cream cheese croissants, so I had one chocolate chip cookie, one macaroon, one croissant (they're actually pretty small), and maybe 4 ounces of milk--just enough to dunk the cookies in, I hadn't done that in ages =P

              Funny that it happened THIS week of all weeks--I don't get tempted with stuff like this very often, so when the opportunity presents itself, I usually take it. Now that it's over, back to no dairy.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by reallygravity View Post
                I kinda tapered the consumption of dairy. Two years ago, I stopped drinking my usual two glasses of milk. Then stopped cheese and yogurt. The only thing that still lingers is ice cream, which has become a rarity in general--maybe a bowl of it once in two months or so.
                I tried coconut milk yogurt the other day and it's pretty beastly. But my husband brought home coconut milk ice cream yesterday and I tried it, and it was really delicious. It was chocolate but you could still taste the coconut so it was sort of like Mounds-flavored Something to consider if you decide to totally give up dairy but still want ice cream occasionally. It was really good!
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                • #68
                  Ooh, that sounds awesome. My birthday is coming up in a couple weeks, maybe I'll see if I can find some of that.
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                  • #69
                    Yes, buy dairy from local farmers. I buy milk daily from a machine provided by local farmers. It tastes far batter, it is real milk. I have tried goat milk, which said to be the best, but I didn't like the taste of it. I usually buy cheese as well.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Chrisflyer View Post
                      We're not biologically disposed to consume milk from another species. Why would we, when no other species on this earth does.
                      Well, there's a lot of things we can do as a species that no other species can. We would, because we can.

                      Is it good for us? That's where the argument should really start.

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                      • #71
                        A dairy cow - even a pastured one - is living an abnormal life. There is nothing primal about being hooked up to a machine and having buckets of milk pumped out of you every day - left to their own devices cows simply do no produce milk in that quantity or frequency.

                        I like/love butter and cream, and use them in small quantities. But let's not kid ourselves - virtually all dairy, even pasture-fed dairy, is a factory food and does not fit any meaningful definition of "primal".

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by ToldUzo View Post
                          According to this, humans produce more IGF-1 growth hormones themselves than there is in the milk we consume:
                          Can the hormones in milk affect breast cancer? : Cancer Research UK : CancerHelp UK

                          Besides, it seemes like everything can/will be 'debunked' and then the debunked things get debunked...Every-damn-THING. So frustrating - but also kind of liberating!
                          Interesting article but even it was pretty equivocal:

                          IGF-1 (insulin growth factor 1). This growth factor has recently been the subject of a research study into breast cancer risk. Women with high levels of IGF-1 in their blood may have a higher risk of breast cancer. Some scientists think that high IGF-1 levels may also encourage an existing breast cancer to spread, but this has not been proved. There are also reports of increased risk of colon cancer with high IGF-1 levels. But we don't know if the high IGF-1 levels come from milk and dairy products in the diet, or from some other cause.
                          As long as there is doubt like this, I think erring on the side of caution is a good thing particularly for those of us with other risk factors.

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                          • #73
                            Well, just weighed myself again, and did the math--I've lost 2 lbs this week! If I can keep this up, I'll be back on track in no time.

                            I don't know if it's giving up dairy that did it, necessarily, or maybe just the fact that cheese has a lot of calories (I also did three of the PB Fitness exercises once and did some sprinting, along with my daily walking sessions, which probably didn't hurt). But either way, yay ^.^

                            I bought 3 avocados at the store, and plan to hard boil a lot of eggs, along with making coconut butter and ghee, so I should have lots of substitutes on hand.
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                            • #74
                              I had some cheese for the first time in a couple of weeks last night at a friend's house (feta already in the salad). This morning my sinuses feel all stuffy. Hmmm. Interesting test.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                                I had some cheese for the first time in a couple of weeks last night at a friend's house (feta already in the salad). This morning my sinuses feel all stuffy. Hmmm. Interesting test.
                                That is strange, feta should be made of goat and might have sheep milk. Looks like you are not only intolerant to cow milk or the feta wasn't real feta.

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