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  • Newbie...and I feel like I'm always hungry!

    I'm a newbie, so I'm sure alot of you can answer this pretty quickly. This is my first week, so I know the fatigue and such will wear off once my body adjusts. I wasn't a carb-aholic before, but once I started actually looking, I found that there was alot of dumb carbs in stuff I was eating. Anywho...

    My biggest issue so far has been hunger! Example: yesterday I had my "big ass salad" with veggies and meat and such. By 4pm, I was pretty hungry...by 5pm I was starving. I was meeting my fiance for supper at chipotle anyway, so that was perfect. I got my fajita bowl with with extra veggies, a whopping scoop of meat, lettuce, salsa, etc etc. By the time I finished it, I literally was sitting there thinking "I could eat another bowl of that I think". I didn't, but I was seriously craving meat. Seriously. When I got home, I grilled up a batch of chicken for more lunch salads this week and ended up eating one of the small ones (about 8:30pm). As I laid down in bed at 10:30, I started getting hunger pangs again!!!!

    I guess the good thing is that I'm craving good stuff like meats and veggies. But the bad thing is that I start getting hungry within a few hours after eating. I'm eating good sized meals, so I'm not skimping. Should I up my protein even more?? I worry about the whole "eat as much protein as you want" mentality, but maybe during this beginning phase that is normal??

    As a side note, I am doing this as a lifestyle change, but am also wanting to lose weight and "look better naked". However, I suffer from migraines, so going all protein for a whole day would shoot me into migraine-central right now. Not an option. Doing some of those once my body has adjusted, or IF, would be an option...just not right now.

    Thoughts or ideas? Like I said, i'm sure alot of you have been through this...

  • #2
    Have you tried adding some good fat? Something like 1-2 tbs of coconut oil per day. That will make you feel full for longer.

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    • #3
      I use EVOO in the dressing I make for my salad, but maybe I should look at more. When is the best time to get in fats? (or is there a better time?)

      I also haven't dropped any weight yet I don't think. I'll be honest, I was secretly hoping some would start shedding fast. But maybe that won't really happen until my body adjusts? I worry that i'm eating too much protein, but I've been told that that is probably not the case.

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      • #4
        I think you may not be eating enough protein and fat! Eating 4 ounces of protein and lunch and then thinking your going to make it until dinner at like 7pm.... Is unrealistic! You need about 8 ounces of protein at lunch to keep yourself full until dinner... If that!

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        • #5
          If you are hungry, eat. If you aren't losing weight later (or are seriously outrageously hungry after a big amount of food), you can worry about calorie restriction or what have you. It seems very common that people undereat when they change their way of eating. There's no optimal time to eat any particular kind of food, just eat it!

          Salads are really not filling. Add more meat, maybe some more oil, and just eat more food.
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          • #6
            I will offer some of my tips:

            - Try to pick consistent meal times. A lot of hunger is driven by ghrelin, and it will push you to eat when it is habitually used to getting food. I eat 2 meals a day on an IF regimen (which I am not suggesting you try yet), but I have found that timing like this is invaluable.
            - Make the last meal of the day high in fat. I go for cottage cheese (with the salad), avocado, or the like. This will keep you satiated later into the following day.
            - Try to "build up the reflex" as I call it. In other words, do the stuff that is going to make you hungry when you are already a little hungry. This means working out semi-hungry, yard work, swimming, etc. I have found that I would be eating a lot anyway, so the little extra build up from the activity is healthy and natural, IMO.
            - Fatty meat is much more satiating than lean. A boneless chicken breast doesn't stay with you like a brisket or pork carnita does. The general trend, for me, is to go lean to fatty throughout the day. Start super clean in the first meal, all protein, make it LOOK like diet food....then for meal #2 it's a ton of fat and protein. This keep the hunger away. If there is one mistake a lot of people seem to make when they go from the SAD to primal/paleo, it's thinking that super lean meat and veg alone is going to fulfill their caloric or hunger needs. It won't. You will get there eventually Grasshopper, but in the beginning the key is compliance, and fat gives you that.

            Hope this helps. Good luck!
            Last edited by TheyCallMeLazarus; 07-17-2013, 10:36 AM.
            "The soul that does not attempt flight; does not notice its chains."

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            • #7
              Recognizing hunger is a good thing. There is nothing wrong with being hungry. Feed the hunger. Eat more fat and less "filler" (salad greens). Bacon is an appetite suppressant for me.
              Sandra
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              There are no cheat days. There are days when you eat primal and days you don't. As soon as you label a day a cheat day, you're on a diet. Don't be on a diet. ~~ Fernaldo

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              • #8
                Thanks all!! I'm experimenting with adding more protein to lunch today to see what that does later. I'm armed with a snack of apple & nuts though just in case! I think part of the struggle for alot of us newbies who had that SAD drilled into their head is the amount of protein. We're so use to hearing that you should only have about 4oz, or whatever, that when we add more our brains say "I dunno...is that going to go straight to your bootie??" It's a work in progress for SURE. And I need to work on breaking through that dogma that I should only eat lean meats.

                Lazarus-I really like your concept of going from lean to fatty throughout the day. I think I'm going to try that with my breakfasts!!

                For adding fats to Mark's "big ass salad", what does everyone suggest? My dressing has EVOO in it...I'm not a fan of avocado. What about some nuts for crunch?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by little12 View Post
                  My dressing has EVOO in it...I'm not a fan of avocado. What about some nuts for crunch?
                  Get out. You are no longer welcome here.

                  Kidding, but man, avocado is good. Just eat more good stuff; you'll figure it out eventually. There's no rush.

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                  • #10
                    I agree with most of the comments above.

                    But first and foremost I would focus on eating well. Weight loss and calorie restriction etc can come later. You've made a significant change to your lifestyle so it's important to not overdue it. Be kind to yourself and do not weight yourself for several MONTHS. Really.

                    Second, EAT! Eat good foods, eat filling foods. Fats are really important. My "creamer" in my morning coffee is coconut oil and egg yolk blended! I eat at least 1 avocado a day. Don't be scared.

                    Last, also don't be afraid of carbs. Cutting your body off too quickly can put you in a tailspin. Eat some fruit (esp berries) and sweet potato or squash. These are all really good for you. And don't forget to exercise, at least some light walking/hiking for now.

                    Good luck!

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                    • #11
                      I asked this question when I first started on my first week or so. I was sooooo hungry. I was eating like a pound to two pounds of meat meat plus vegetables a day... Somehow, not sure how or why It has gotten a lot better for me now that I'm on week 3 now I'm eating in a lot more moderation.

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                      • #12
                        Did you start to lose weight after that first week?? I'm only on day 5, but I "feel" heavier. I can't say if I am because I put my scale away (per advice of others), but I can tell you my clothes aren't looser or anything like that. They might even feel tighter. Either way, I feel huge...like i'm sitting with a budda-belly.

                        I'm 5'-6" and 160---my goal weight is 140...but my bigger goal is to "look better naked" as so many others have said. If the number on the scale is higher than that, but I look/feel good, then i'm cool with that.

                        It's very hard to listen to advice of "eat, eat, eat" when you feel like this. I don't feel as tired today, so that's good. I never really got the carb-flu type symptoms. I didn't feel as famished yesterday like I could run out an attack/eat a cow...so that's good. I just feel fat. Jabba the hutt Which unfortunately makes you second guess yourself or wonder if you messed up.

                        Yesterday's menu in order: (not lactose intolerant btw)

                        smoothie: spinach, 1/2 banana, 2 tablespoon of almond butter, unsweet almond milk, scopp of greek yogurt, and a few stawberries
                        coffee
                        big ass salad with peppers, 3 chicken tenderloins grilled, a spinkle of feta, almond slivers, evoo-balsamic
                        apple, pistachios
                        ground beef burger (like 1/2 pound), asparagus, onion rings from 1/2 an onion (which are only rings that I broil so they're crunchy) and a little paleo mayo seasoned that i got from a recipe
                        a few pieces of celery with almond butter

                        Thoughts????

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by little12 View Post
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                          smoothie: Spinach, 1/2 banana, 2 tablespoon of almond butter, unsweet almond milk, scopp of greek yogurt, and a few stawberries
                          coffee
                          big ass salad with peppers, 3 chicken tenderloins grilled, a spinkle of feta, almond slivers, evoo-balsamic
                          apple, pistachios
                          ground beef burger (like 1/2 pound), asparagus, onion rings from 1/2 an onion (which are only rings that i broil so they're crunchy) and a little paleo mayo seasoned that i got from a recipe
                          a few pieces of celery with almond butter

                          thoughts????
                          too many nuts.
                          Nuts are the biggest newbie mistake.
                          Stop eating nuts!!!
                          5'0" female, 45 years old. Started Primal October 31, 2011, at a skinny fat 111.5 lbs. Low weight: 99.5 lb on a fast. Gained back to 115(!) on SAD chocolate, potato chips, and stress. Currently 111.

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                          • #14
                            Paleo/primal isn't really high protein. Its more like eat lots of protein, fat and veggies. Sounds to me like you've been eating lots of low fat cuts of meat and vegetables so you haven't been getting as many calories as you need.
                            I feel like if you are eating unprocessed, fresh, good food you can basically eat what you what (within limits, i.e. never eat till you feel sick). So just keep eating.
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                            • #15
                              Nuts are really calorie dense, so if you are feeling heavier this might be why. Potentially you could be eating half of your calorie needs a day with the amount of almond butter and nuts you are eating. Otherwise it sounds great.
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