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  • Medtation to lower insulin levels (!)

    I just read an article in Hebrew but then searched in Google for it and found a few articles - it appears that meditation lowers your insulin levels (I guess by making you more relaxed). There are tons of research about the benefits of meditation, I guess this is just one more.

    So basically, if you want to lose more weight - meditate.

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    Word.

    I agree.

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    • #3
      makes sense but d you have references?
      You know all those things you wanted to do: You should go do them.

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      • #4
        Lower insulin does not always equal weight loss.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by valmason01 View Post
          makes sense but d you have references?
          Not the OP, but a few for fun:
          TM in particular:
          Paul-Labrador, M., Polk, D., Dwyer, J., Velasquez, I., Nidich, S., Rainforth, M., & ... Merz, C. (2006). Effects of a randomized controlled trial of transcendental meditation on components of the metabolic syndrome in subjects with coronary heart disease. Archives Of Internal Medicine, 166(11), 1218-1224.

          Relaxation in general:
          Bhasin, M., Dusek, J., Chang, B., Joseph, M., Denninger, J., Fricchione, G., & ... Libermann, T. (2013). Relaxation response induces temporal transcriptome changes in energy metabolism, insulin secretion and inflammatory pathways. Plos One, 8(5), e62817. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0062817
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          • #6
            Cool studies. I've always enjoyed meditating sort of intuitively, I just can't stay consistent with it.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by jakejoh10 View Post
              Lower insulin does not always equal weight loss.
              I don't get what lowering insulin levels have to do with anything at all. Are we trying to increase insulin resistance? Insulin sensitivity is all about spiking it and increasing the rate at which it returns to baseline. If we never spike it, we become insulin resistant.

              I'm sure there are many benefits to meditation. Anything that reduces stress is surely beneficial to the body. But if fat loss is the goal, why not take that time sitting on your butt and just go for a walk? Not only is it going to burn far more fat than sitting on your butt meditating, but I'm sure fresh air and light exercise through nature will do a great job clearing your mind and reduce stress, too.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                I don't get what lowering insulin levels have to do with anything at all. Are we trying to increase insulin resistance? Insulin sensitivity is all about spiking it and increasing the rate at which it returns to baseline. If we never spike it, we become insulin resistant.

                I'm sure there are many benefits to meditation. Anything that reduces stress is surely beneficial to the body. But if fat loss is the goal, why not take that time sitting on your butt and just go for a walk? Not only is it going to burn far more fat than sitting on your butt meditating, but I'm sure fresh air and light exercise through nature will do a great job clearing your mind and reduce stress, too.
                Agreed. I think people get confused: lower insulin doesn't = weight loss, but the opposite is true (weight loss = lower insulin levels).
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                • #9
                  I believe it. I know meditation helps me be more connected with my physical body which in turn makes me more connected to my true hunger. I end up eating less and healthier food when I meditate regularly.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jakejoh10 View Post
                    Agreed. I think people get confused: lower insulin doesn't = weight loss, but the opposite is true (weight loss = lower insulin levels).
                    My fasting BG when I ate <80g of carbs every day for a 6 month period was 85. Now that I eat more carbs than fat it's about 75. I tested it yesterday after a 23 hour fast. 76. Not bad. Just saying. High carb = insulin sensitivity. I'm also very careful to make my fats high SFA. I really only eat fat from steak, dairy and coconut these days. And I'm always hot. After I cold shower and my A/C blasting at 65 (ah the benefits of electricity included in rent!) I was sweating my balls off. Hurrah, thyroid...
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                      My fasting BG when I ate <80g of carbs every day for a 6 month period was 85. Now that I eat more carbs than fat it's about 75. I tested it yesterday after a 23 hour fast. 76. Not bad. Just saying. High carb = insulin sensitivity. I'm also very careful to make my fats high SFA. I really only eat fat from steak, dairy and coconut these days. And I'm always hot. After I cold shower and my A/C blasting at 65 (ah the benefits of electricity included in rent!) I was sweating my balls off. Hurrah, thyroid...
                      I see what you're saying. I eat high carb as well and it works great for me. But, for someone who's already insulin resistant, eating a high carb diet would probably be counter-productive.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jakejoh10 View Post
                        I see what you're saying. I eat high carb as well and it works great for me. But, for someone who's already insulin resistant, eating a high carb diet would probably be counter-productive.
                        True. But they'll never regain insulin sensitivity eating low carb all the time. All they'll do is avoid the problem. It takes decades to create metabolic syndrome in most cases, so it stands to reason it won't be fixed overnight. It may take years. Getting your fat intake under control - elevating SFA's and eliminating PUFA's is a great start. From there, at some point you're going to have to cycle in carbohydrate to regain sensitivity. That doesn't mean chomp down on 3 lbs of white potatoes. It does mean start lifting heavy to increase glycogen stores and insulin sensitivity, becoming fat soluble vitamin replete and slowly cycling small (but ever increasing) amounts of lower GI fruits and starches into your post-workout routine, slowly increasing quantity and GI until you can handle it. It may take years, and a blood glucose monitor is essential to finding our tolerances, but IMO I don't see another way to truly fix insulin resistance.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                          True. But they'll never regain insulin sensitivity eating low carb all the time. All they'll do is avoid the problem. It takes decades to create metabolic syndrome in most cases, so it stands to reason it won't be fixed overnight. It may take years. Getting your fat intake under control - elevating SFA's and eliminating PUFA's is a great start. From there, at some point you're going to have to cycle in carbohydrate to regain sensitivity. That doesn't mean chomp down on 3 lbs of white potatoes. It does mean start lifting heavy to increase glycogen stores and insulin sensitivity, becoming fat soluble vitamin replete and slowly cycling small (but ever increasing) amounts of lower GI fruits and starches into your post-workout routine, slowly increasing quantity and GI until you can handle it. It may take years, and a blood glucose monitor is essential to finding our tolerances, but IMO I don't see another way to truly fix insulin resistance.
                          Agreed, good points.
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                          • #14
                            Actually I use to think it took decades to create metabolic syndrome, but the obese kids epidemic is tending to prove me wrong. Looks like you can get it done in just a few years if you get started early!

                            Anyhow, while you look at low carb protol as avoiding the problem I view it as the prescribed treatment that gives their metabolism the time it needs to heal. Reducing the glucose and by result various stresses for months or even years, as you say, is simply what must be done in the beginning. Many that have been low carb for a period later CAN reintroduce carbs. There are quite a few bloggers that jumped on the tator waggon after a couple of years of low carb. It is going to be quite individual. Some may never be metabolically flexible again unfortunately. There truly is a limitation to matter. Not everything once broke can be fixed. But the human body is quite amazing, so all we can do is try.

                            Back to OP though. Meditation is good. I don't need a study to prove it (although there are many).

                            Reduced insulin is good if your context is cumulative secretion and your goals are health and longevity. I think a couple posters got things a bit mixed up here. Less insulin actually means you ARE insulin sensitive. Low insulin lifestyle is associated with improved immune function, lower risks of cancer, stroke, and dementia and are generally linked with increased longevity. Does low insulin lifestyle = low carb? Not necessarily. It does not exclude low carb as part of the protocol to achieve such a state either. There is more than one way to skin a cat, just depends on your favorite method.

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