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  • The primal diet is freaking me out...

    Im 16, I love my health and fitness...Ive been eating a bowl of oatmeal with milk, plain yoghurt and sultanas everyday for a few weeks now....Not to mention a turkey sandwhich for lunch...Even if the grains were bad, aparently fruit is also a no no? WTF - I have been eating atleast 2-3 pieces of fruit everday for years...

    I eat an overall healthy diet with exercise but im totaly baffled...

    It is, and ill say it again, Impossible for me to be constantly eating a Paleo diet, especially for lunch and at school.I could eat eggs and nuts in the morning, sure no problem.

    Typically, A banana or some fruit would be the main mid day snack, then a whole grain turkey sandwhich with another piece of fruit for lunch. Snack after school - canned tuna or baked beans and whetever is for dinner (usually healthy)


    I feel pretty good, infact, I feel fit, strong and healthy yet im slowly killing myself?


    If grains are so bad, how come people in the mediterranian are on average living well into their 80s and WHOLE grains (not the processed crap) are a major factor in their diet...

    Im not trying to disprove this whole Paleo life style but it just seems really unrealistic for most people to actually achieve, especially teens.
    In my opinion, this whole Diabete, cancer early death epidemic is not so much the grains but the KFC, Mc Donalds, Pizza, Soft drink and the lack of exercise.

    Thoughts?


    My 2 cents

    Lockie

  • #2
    You're overthinking. Grains are converted to sugar in the body. That is what you don't want. Grains do not have enough nutrition to be ingesting regularly. They are merely filler calories. I think the Med people would live even longer if they eliminated grains.

    Have you read The Primal Blueprint?

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    • #3
      First of all Primal is not Paleo, two similar but very different ways of eating. Second, The Primal Blueprint isn't a diet, it is a lifestyle. You need to read Mark's book "The Primal Blueprint" it has all the answers to your questions, backed by scientific studies. READ and you'll understand, it can't all be explained with a forum response.

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      • #4
        You have a very misconstrued vision of what foods are allowed/not-advised on primal. On top of that, it's not impossible to do in high school or college. I did it in both.

        Have you been to the Mediterranean? Because I have. I am from Egypt. All they eat is bread. And they SUFFER. The Mediterranean diet is a primal like diet that members of that society ate like YEARS AGO. It's nothing like that now.

        You can have fruit. You can have ancient grains like quinoa, you can even have sprouted grains. But the old life-style of consuming a grain at every meal is going to have you end up like most Americans. You want a disease? You want to be fat? Go right ahead, but disease and obesity is a rarity here.
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        • #5
          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/definitive-guide-grains/

          read that. come back when you have.
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          • #6
            The only proof you'll get is observing what happens to you when you go Primal. I was at my wits' end when I started Primal and the weight just started falling off. My arthritis and my migraines disappeared (which my doctor says indicates either a wheat or gluten allergy and quite possibly both, so I avoid both on principle). My IBS disappeared. I am no longer in a wheelchair.

            Grains are the root cause of these problems. But you'll have to do it for yourself to understand it.
            Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

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            • #7
              16?

              Haha. Enjoy it while you can...

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              • #8
                Have you even seen what Pankration practicioners in Greece eat after training super hard? It's pretty much paleo, or in this case, mediterranean - no grains. And these guys are tanks.

                My advice, read the book. No where does Mark state fruit is a no no. Also, eating primally is pretty easy at any time. It may just require some prep work and foresight on occasion.
                I grok, therefore I am.

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                • #9
                  My advice would be to keep an open mind. It's great that you are challenging what you have heard, and you have raised your questions in a very polite way. Read around the subject, study the research and make your own decisions. We have all been raised to believe certain 'truths' about things, and if we can respectfully look at other people's points of view we will often learn something. There's nothing wrong with changing your mind in the light of better evidence, so you can review your choices at any time.

                  Welcome to the site. I suspect if you avoid processed foods generally you will be fine for a good few years.
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                  • #10
                    It's hard for you to understand because you're too young for decades of excessive grains, fructose, PUFAs and preservatives to have caught up with you. The anti-nutrition of these foods takes a long time to build up in some people, but it is building up. I have a friend who was tall and skinny and athletic all through his childhood and teens, but once he hit his mid-twenties he started to develop a big, hard gut, inflamed joints, chronic illness of one kind or another, lethargy; the list goes on and on.
                    You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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                    • #11
                      My thoughts - eat whatever the hell you want. Nobody's forcing beef down your throat. ...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Suki View Post
                        Nobody's forcing beef down your throat. ...
                        where do i sign up for this?
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                        • #13
                          At 16 your body is still rapidly growing, regenerating itself, and is rather resilient. As that tapers off when you reach 18 or 19, and completely stops when you advance into your 20s, the cumulative effect of grains will catch up to you.

                          Just because you eat healthy by the standards of Conventional Wisdom and are fit and athletic at 16 does not mean things can/will continue that way. I would not be surprised if your diet lead to gaining the fabled "Freshman 15" in a couple more years as your energy levels naturally decline, barring you becoming a amateur/semi-pro/collegiate athlete. I knew plenty of 16 year olds that quite frankly ate nothing but junk, yet they appeared fit and athletic too. That's just the way adolescent/pubescent bodies work for a lot of people. My 9 year old stepson can put away three bowls of cereal and a couple envelopes of PopTarts yet he's still so rail-thin I can literally SEE his heart beat under the skin along his sternum. This example does not prove that three bowls of cereal and a bunch of PopTarts comprise a healthy breakfast (unless you're Ancel Keys or Dean Ornish or somebody like that).

                          For every person that advanced into their 30s on a diet of sugar and carbs and other processed junk and wound up overweight, undernourished, and out of shape, there are equal numbers of 30-somethings that lived a healthy lifestyle according to CW, avoided processed junk, eschewed fast food, ate low fat, exercised religiously, and still wound up overweight and undernourished. While the later group might generally have been in better physical shape than the former, many of them ... us ... myself included, wound up as sick or sicker than had we just eaten all the junk and not bothered exercising at all.

                          It's absolutely, 110% fair to conclude that the observations of people that went primal after subsisting on fast food do not apply to you, but I encourage you don't throw out the observations of people that were former high school, collegiate, professional, and even - like Mark - world class athletes, plus the doctors, nutritionists, former-vegetarians, fitness trainers, etc ... all of whom make up the membership of this site that also saw dramatic improvements to their physical well-being within mere weeks of switching to the PB.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Primalchild View Post
                            It's hard for you to understand because you're too young for decades of excessive grains, fructose, PUFAs and preservatives to have caught up with you. The anti-nutrition of these foods takes a long time to build up in some people, but it is building up. I have a friend who was tall and skinny and athletic all through his childhood and teens, but once he hit his mid-twenties he started to develop a big, hard gut, inflamed joints, chronic illness of one kind or another, lethargy; the list goes on and on.
                            I totally agree. I was in great shape, and very active eating whatever I wanted until I hit about 22. Then everything started catching up to me. You may be like me, and are better at converting fat to energy. However that doesn't always last. I'm 34 now, and all the exercise I could handle wouldn't get rid of my gut. After about 3 months of eating Primal foods I can see my stomach muscles again.

                            Will it last? I don't know, but I have no reason to go back to eating grains and desserts.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by batty View Post
                              where do i sign up for this?
                              As soon as I find out, I'll let you know!

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