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  • Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
    I like my koala bears deep fried, buffalo style. How do you eat yours?
    Don't you find that all the eucalyptus oil goes rancid when you deep fry the koalas? Have you tried them carpetbag? Mmmmm

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    • we can eat carpetbags?
      beautiful
      yeah you are

      Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
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      • Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
        Looking at it through the context of evolution, fruit was probably the only thing on Earth that tasted good. Meat is absolutely delicious...because we can rub it with salt and pepper, sear it in butter and rub it down in some garlic or chili powder or something. Meat with absolutely no seasoning at all is pretty darn boring. It at least needs some salt. Since ancient man didn't have access to any of these things, fruit was probably preferred. At least I'd rather eat mangoes than raw or steamed squirrel.
        Not even true. My lamb and beef require no seasoning, apart from salt which I do because its nutritonally necessary. All other stuff is crap to me, whose toxins outweighs their nutritional benefit. Meat tastes best when made simply. Put a lamb on an osado and cook for 8 hrs, bam.

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        • Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
          Looking at it through the context of evolution, fruit was probably the only thing on Earth that tasted good.
          When you're really hungry, all kinds of things taste good. I think we are too spoiled to have any appreciation of what Paleolithic man might have been happy to eat.
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          • Primal koala bear recipe

            Ingredients:
            - Large coconut
            - Koala bear

            Instructions:
            1. Find a live koala bear.
            2. Hit the koala bear over the head with the large coconut.
            3. Use the chunks of coconut as scoops and eat the koala bear.

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            • Originally posted by PrimalFish View Post
              Thanks for the response. Maybe there are more reasons why there was not ample fruit in PNG just a few decades ago? Thousands of years ago though, before agriculture, if there was any fruit at all and caveman we're eating it, I just don't get why the seeds wouldn't get scattered around and over time make more and more fruit trees? Why is this flawed logic?
              It's not flawed logic, but humans aren't the only animal that wants to eat fruit. Lots of abundant fruit means lots of birds and squirrels and other things that want to eat those fruit too.

              Like Leilani says, tubers likely made up a much more significant and reliable part of our diet.

              The bit I think you're missing is what I posted earlier. We only grew our large brains after we started eating meat. Eating meat is one of the things which has made us who we are today.
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              • Actually, if you turn on the history channel scientists are saying advanced aliens came here thousands of years ago and created us by crossing their DNA with Neanderthal. Would explain the sudden rise of civilization, pyramids, the missing link, etc. Anyway if we are half alien... who knows what the aliens ate?
                OMG, I didn't realize you were 9 years old! Sorry. I would have been slightly less responsive to your drivel had I understood the level you are operating at.
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                • present day

                  beautiful
                  yeah you are

                  Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                  lol

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                  • I think an all fruit diet is just as much a modern creation of accessibility as a Paleo diet made up entirely of meat, vegetables, and coconut oil. Neither one accurately reenact all Paleolithic human diets. Vegetables as we know them aren't anything like plants tens of thousands of years ago, and they certainly weren't in such abundance 24/7/365. I think both ends of the spectrum need to reconcile with the fact that neither of these are truly prehistoric dietary replications and acknowledge that the truth lies somewhere in between, but also that everything Neolithic isn't horrible and often improves upon the fundamentals.
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                    • Originally posted by j3nn View Post
                      I think an all fruit diet is just as much a modern creation of accessibility as a Paleo diet made up entirely of meat, vegetables, and coconut oil. Neither one accurately reenact all Paleolithic human diets. Vegetables as we know them aren't anything like plants tens of thousands of years ago, and they certainly weren't in such abundance 24/7/365. I think both ends of the spectrum need to reconcile with the fact that neither of these are truly prehistoric dietary replications and acknowledge that the truth lies somewhere in between, but also that everything Neolithic isn't horrible and often improves upon the fundamentals.
                      Besides, life goes on, except for those who died from malnutrition, celiac, and other such conditions.

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                      • Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                        Besides, life goes on, except for those who died from malnutrition, celiac, and other such conditions.
                        What's your point?
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                        • Originally posted by PrimalFish View Post
                          But it seems to me that primal man would have eaten mostly fruit (also some nuts/seeds, leafy greens, and yes meat,fish). I was hoping someone could show me the flaw in my following logic: Primal man would be in some warm place (where humans are meant to be) where there are lots of fruit trees and he'd eat lots of fruit because it is easy to get to and available in abundance.
                          If you take time to study the archaeological evidence, everything says meat.

                          You can break the evidence down into 1) physical adaptations, 2) archaeological finds, 3) direct evidence via bone analysis. Again, they all point to meat.

                          The beginnings were about 2M years ago when the forests dried up and homo habilis was no longer able to chow down on fruit all day, he had to switch to meat scavenging.

                          And it progressed from there...

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                          • Originally posted by PrimalFish View Post
                            Where did man originate? Where did Grok live? I figured man originated in the tropics (or at least not some cold place) and where fruit could grow all year round. As man grew in numbers and spread the seeds of fruit around, the fruit grew even more and was ample. Somehow we moved away from the equator. How did that happen? When did that happen?
                            I think the best we could have hoped for in the jungles of the equator is; sit around under the towering fruit trees and wait for primates and birds to drop fruit scraps. Unless we ate the birds and primates.

                            I grew up with my father running a fruit tree orchard, here is a bit of anecdotal observations, from that time.

                            •Modern day fruit trees are extremely small. Top fruit can be reached with a step ladder. Jungle fruit trees would be hundreds of feet high as they are competing for sunlight like the rest of the trees. Climbing these monsters would've been more dangerous than hunting jungle leopard.

                            •birds are a pain in the ass in fruit orchards. They have this ability to eat fruit that is not yet palatable to us (ie green). Pick it early enough and it won't ripen off the tree, leave it on and the birds will eat it before it ever becomes palatable to us. I guess every animal carved out their evolutionary niche and for birds it's fruit.

                            The reason we left the stinking hot, soaked to the bone, cramped, no sunlight, mosquito ridden, canopy driven ecosystem is quite obvious. Who wants to sit around waiting all day for some canopy dwellers to drop some fruit so you can survive. The temperate grasslands would've been much more inviting.


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                            • Originally posted by KimchiNinja View Post
                              If you take time to study the archaeological evidence, everything says meat.

                              You can break the evidence down into 1) physical adaptations, 2) archaeological finds, 3) direct evidence via bone analysis. Again, they all point to meat.

                              The beginnings were about 2M years ago when the forests dried up and homo habilis was no longer able to chow down on fruit all day, he had to switch to meat scavenging.

                              And it progressed from there...
                              This was in the Weekend Link Love last Saturday:
                              Dr. Loren Cordain makes a strong rebuttal to the media’s misguided, preliminary contention that a diet of grass seeds characterized the early human diet.
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                              • Originally posted by dilberryhoundog View Post
                                •Modern day fruit trees are extremely small. Top fruit can be reached with a step ladder.
                                Tell me about it. My house was built long ago on an old avocado orchard. Even in the 10 years I have lived here, the 60-year-old avocado trees have continued to grow. Some are so tall now that we can no longer reach the fruit. We often "harvest" it by waiting for it to fall or be picked by raccoons and possums. The others we have this very long telescoping apple picker thing.
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