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    Hey everyone!

    I'm fairly new to the primal lifestyle still (about 2 months in!) but LOVING it. I wrote a post a couple of weeks ago about how to eat Paleo while on road trips with my fast food loving boss, (for those of you who were in on the conversation, you'll be happy to know I survived, despite the fact that she went through the McDonalds drive through 6 out of 7 days we were there. One day she went twice.) and now I'm about to face another challenge! I'm going camping this weekend with some friends who happen to be vegetarians/vegans, and very opinionated vegetarians at that!

    Personally, I don't have an issue with anyone eating whatever it is they feel is best for them. Doesn't matter to me - to each their own! But then the talk began about who is going to bring what, grocery-wise. One will bring the "fake lunch meat and bread" for sandwiches, one will bring the cereal, one will bring the pancake mix and one will bring the veggie burgers and corn. What am I going to bring they ask? Umm... bacon... sausage... eggs? At least the fruit and veggies we can agree on..

    So my question here has 2 parts. First of all, I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions for food ideas - I will have a camp fire as well as a little grill to go on it, as well as a cooler and access to water. Clearly I'll be cooking my own meals separately from the rest so recipes for 1 person and things that won't cost a ton of money and take up a ton of space would be great. I'll be there for about 4 days.

    Secondly, while I'm fine with everyone eating whatever they want to eat, unfortunately some of my fellow campers don't share this opinion and seem to be personally insulted about my choice to follow more of a Primal lifestyle. I was just wondering if anyone can direct me to some excellent articles / posts / threads that I can read up on more to prepare myself for the oncoming barrage of questions and opinions that I will certainly face.

  • #2
    Eat nothing but bacon and fry it up all day long. They wont be vegetarians for long.

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    • #3
      Don't go camping with vegetarians. You might end up having to eat them, and their omega 6: omega 3 ratios are unsatisfactory. Or worse, you might not have to eat them, in which case you will have to engage them in conversation without the convenient diversion of cable television.
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      • #4
        For the second question ... I think I would just simply say "I don't criticize how you eat" and/or "You eat what you want, I'll eat what I want" and just end the discussion there, and maybe try to change the subject to something else. Maybe you're okay with having debates about it, but I don't feel a fully-functional adult needs to justify to anyone how they choose to live. And, ideally, if you just don't indulge their criticism, they'll get tired of it and give up.
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        • #5
          Seriously, tell them to STFU. Clearly you enjoy their company outside of their dietary preferences, so there is no reason for you all to discuss those choices while camping.

          I googled "camping paleo" and got a lot of results.
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          • #6
            What could be more paleo than meat and fire? Easy. Bring some fruit and canned fish. If you want to get more elaborate precook some sweet potatoes in their skins, warm them on the grill. Hard boil some eggs in advance. Bring peppers and summer squash to roast. IMO bacon would be a hassle.
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            • #7
              Potatoes, carrots and onions are the easiest thing to cook on a grill. Cut em up small, throw them in ton foil with a bunch of butter and seasoning and toss em on the grill till done. Lots of meat in the evening and eggs and bacon for breakfast. Bring dried frut/trail mix for snacking and coffee for morning, whiskey for the evening.

              This is exactly what my camp trip food looks like except there is usually pancakes for breakfast as well.

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              • #8
                I just got done camping for 5 days and ate totally paleo the whole time. Except for the whiskey, of course.

                I just pulled a bunch of meat out of the freezer, put veggies in plastic bags, and brought some eggs, avocados, and canned fish. Easy.

                You're an adult; don't give a crap what they think of your food choices. The day I start worrying about what a vegan thinks of me is the day they push my body out on a flaming Viking boat.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cyborcat View Post
                  For the second question ... I think I would just simply say "I don't criticize how you eat" and/or "You eat what you want, I'll eat what I want" and just end the discussion there, and maybe try to change the subject to something else. Maybe you're okay with having debates about it, but I don't feel a fully-functional adult needs to justify to anyone how they choose to live. And, ideally, if you just don't indulge their criticism, they'll get tired of it and give up.
                  Yeah, that

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                  • #10
                    Dinty Moore beef stew. It's not entirely primal, but it is close. Open the can and remove the paper label. Put the can in the edge of the fire and stir every once in a while. Eat it straight from the can.

                    I suppose you could bring a cooler full of steaks and turkey legs, but I also suppose you like these people and don't want to alienate them.

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                    • #11
                      Why do people have such a big problem with telling people to mind their own damn business?

                      I would only tolerate complaints about my eating habits if I were a cannibal. And I still wouldn't care.
                      The above should be viewed as complete and utter nonsense.

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                      • #12
                        All valid points. So far, I like the idea of cooking bacon all day long...

                        No, I don't particularly have a problem with just telling them to shut up and mind their business. However, I'm looking for some good reading material about the Primal lifestyle so that I can continue to educate myself more, as well as to be ready should the opportunity arise for an actual discussion about the Primal lifestyle. I know there's a TON of info on this site - it's overwhelming! Just looking for good places to start learning more.

                        As far as food goes, I've been googling recipes this morning and I'm thinking of making a bunch of kabobs just before leaving and freezing them. I figure I can make some chicken ones, some steak ones and some veggie ones and they won't take much time to cook and won't make much of a mess! That way they can all cook their own stuff and I don't need to use like 3 pans just to make dinner for myself. Eggs and bacon for breakfast is a must though.. With that plus some fruit, veggies, homemade granola... maybe a salad in a jar! I should be in decent shape.

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                        • #13
                          Don't forget coffee- maybe that can be something you share- go get a french press. LOL, don't forget the butter and coconut oil.

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                          • #14
                            You can also do foil packets:
                            Get a square of foil, toss on some cut up meat and vegetables, and fat/oil and seasonings, fold up like an envelope and seal. When ready to cook, take them out of your cooler and throw them on the grill for 20 minutes. Yum.

                            This also gives you little in the way of containers to pack out.

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                            • #15
                              Veggies get judged just as much as they judge! Just respect their choices, and don't make a big deal of it.

                              Failing that, if they start preaching about the China study...

                              "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                              In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                              - Ray Peat

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