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    I've been a follower of a loose paleo diet for some time now and was concerned about my 14 year old son who eats loads of processed carbs. He has suddenly discovered omelettes! However we had 12 eggs in the fridge the other day and now we have 2 I think he's had quite a few! What would be a safe number of edges to eat in 1 day and have you any fave recipes which take 5 minutes to make ( yes, he is a teenager who gets up for school with 5 minutes for breakfast) which would appeal to him.... Thanks

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    Originally posted by sonialanc View Post
    I've been a follower of a loose paleo diet for some time now and was concerned about my 14 year old son who eats loads of processed carbs. He has suddenly discovered omelettes! However we had 12 eggs in the fridge the other day and now we have 2 I think he's had quite a few! What would be a safe number of edges to eat in 1 day and have you any fave recipes which take 5 minutes to make ( yes, he is a teenager who gets up for school with 5 minutes for breakfast) which would appeal to him.... Thanks
    Eggs are fine and can be cooked fairly quickly. If that takes too long, you could make some kind of egg casserole bake or egg muffins with some kind of meat and vegetables and cheese added that you could just microwave. I wouldn't worry about him (or anyone) eating a lot of eggs, I would just buy more eggs. For two people I buy two dozen eggs once or twice a week, depending on how many eggs we feel like eating that week.

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    • #3
      Encouraging your son to eliminate processed foods from his diet? Absolutely. Don't forget sugar, gluten, etc.

      There is nothing wrong with carbohydrates and glucose. Are you going to attempt getting a 14 year old 'fat-adapted'? You will also be jeopardising his health. He needs carbs to grow and develop. Going low carb will affect his thyroid function, develop insulin resistance and send his hormones out of whack, not to forget deplete a poor child of energy and mental acuity. White rice, potatoes and plenty of fruit sounds good to me and is optimal.

      You'll be depriving him of nutritious foods. Encourage him to eat everything Paleo/Primal and fuel his body, don't restrict or eliminate food groups. Don't favour butter and coconut oil over fruits and starch.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mikee5 View Post
        Encouraging your son to eliminate processed foods from his diet? Absolutely. Don't forget sugar, gluten, etc.

        There is nothing wrong with carbohydrates and glucose. Are you going to attempt getting a 14 year old 'fat-adapted'? You will also be jeopardising his health. He needs carbs to grow and develop. Going low carb will affect his thyroid function, develop insulin resistance and send his hormones out of whack, not to forget deplete a poor child of energy and mental acuity. White rice, potatoes and plenty of fruit sounds good to me and is optimal.

        You'll be depriving him of nutritious foods. Encourage him to eat everything Paleo/Primal and fuel his body, don't restrict or eliminate food groups. Don't favour butter and coconut oil over fruits and starch.
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        • #5
          As others have said, do NOT get him off a high-carb diet. Just get him off of a PROCESSED FOODS diet. For a 14 year-old, fruits, sweet potatoes, potatoes, and squashes are absolutely ideal, and even rice, dried fruit, molasses, honey, maple syrup, fruit juice, etc. don't need to be avoided and can be very beneficial.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by F.Fellini View Post
            As others have said, do NOT get him off a high-carb diet. Just get him off of a PROCESSED FOODS diet. For a 14 year-old, fruits, sweet potatoes, potatoes, and squashes are absolutely ideal, and even rice, dried fruit, molasses, honey, maple syrup, fruit juice, etc. don't need to be avoided and can be very beneficial.
            agree with most of this except about the juice. anybody would be better served simply eating fruit.

            instead of trying to make breakfast each day, i make an egg-bake thing once a week. 12 eggs, 1/2 stick butter, 4 oz goat cheese, 2 bags frozen veggies. bake, portion, freeze, grab/go each day. makes 8 servings for me. he might need more.
            As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sonialanc View Post
              I've been a follower of a loose paleo diet for some time now and was concerned about my 14 year old son who eats loads of processed carbs. He has suddenly discovered omelettes! However we had 12 eggs in the fridge the other day and now we have 2 I think he's had quite a few! What would be a safe number of edges to eat in 1 day and have you any fave recipes which take 5 minutes to make ( yes, he is a teenager who gets up for school with 5 minutes for breakfast) which would appeal to him.... Thanks
              I think his upper limit should be 30 eggs a day. That seems excessive to me.

              Our family (2 adults, 3 kids) goes through slightly less than 60 eggs a week. I think a teenage boy could easily eat that many in a week just by himself.

              My favourite 'snack' for when I get home late in the evening and haven't had dinner: Break 4-5 eggs into a bowl, with 50g butter and 50ml cream. Microwave for about 2min, (stirring with a fork every 30s), until egg solidifies. Season with salt/pepper/cheese and eat.
              Last edited by magicmerl; 07-03-2013, 05:23 PM.
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              • #8
                To be fair the OP didn't say she wanted her son to go low carb, just that she was concerned about his consumption of processed carbs.

                I get this! I don't like my kids eating bread, but I've said they can have 2 slices a day... Yesterday my middle child ate loads more and I told him I'd stop buying it again...

                My issue is what I feed them for lunch when a sandwich is the easiest thing... So I let them eat bread then. (I've tried to get them to take some cold meatloaf or something to school but they're not into that).

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Iron Fireling View Post
                  I don't like my kids eating bread, but I've said they can have 2 slices a day... Yesterday my middle child ate loads more and I told him I'd stop buying it again...
                  I think this sounds like a good guideline that I might try, if they have their sandwich for lunch then not toast for breakfast as well.

                  But what about other things like biscuits and cake that other people might give them? That doesn't come into their quota?
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                  • #10
                    Thanks so far, just to reiterate I am not restricting his unprocessed carbs, just don't want him munching sugar laden highly processed breakfast cereals in particular. He has plenty other carbs but breakfast was an issue.....

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                    • #11
                      IMO, processed carbs like bread, cheetos, fritos, doritoes, etc., are totally different from carbs that come from nature. I wouldn't restrict his overall carb intake, just make fruits and veggies (including rice, potatoes, and sweet potatoes) readily availble to him while making the "itos" food group something he has to buy with whatever pocket money or allowance you let him to have.

                      Almost any omelette you can make in a pan on the stove top, you can pre-make by baking it. Frozen pre-baked eggs defrost really quickly, so if you bake eggs ahead of time, especially in a muffin tin, you can defrost them when you get up and then a quick pop into the microwave to heat them when he wakes up.

                      I also wouldn't worry about how many eggs he's eating overall. They're a nice little protein with plenty of fat to feed his growing body and brain. Let him listen to his body for awhile without all the noise from the experts. He could very well change and adapt as his body changes - he might even grow up to be one of those healthy people who only eats when he's hungry and never has to worry about his weight.
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                      • #12
                        I try not to worry what other people give my kids... Simply because it's out of my control, and ultimately our kids need to decide for themselves how to eat.

                        However if we can provide them with healthier alternatives that are just as tasty (if not more so) we might be able to turn the tide in favour of healthier food!

                        I try to eat mostly unprocessed foods, but I'm not adverse to paleo treats for the kids on occasion either!

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                        • #13
                          Eggs are a great breakfast. There is a reason that our great grandparents started eating them, and it wasn't just because pop tarts and breakfast biscuits weren't invented yet. There is plenty of information on here to set you straight if you are worried about that old cholesterol lie.

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                          • #14
                            I buy a good protein shake for my 14 yr old. It only takes him 2 minutes to blitz one up with frozen berries or a banana.

                            He has no issue with dairy and even though the protein drink is processed I believe its better for him than the other rubbish he used to eat.

                            Keeps him going for ages and I have noticed he is starting to really build muscle and cut up. This could be cos he's 14 of course, but also I think because of the high quality protein he is eating.

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                            • #15
                              No such thing as too many eggs until he barely eats anything else. Many people eat upwards of a dozen a day with no problems at all, lipid panels even improve in many cases.
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