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Help Shut my CICO Friend Up - THE GHEE CHALLENGE

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Allenete View Post
    You're just on the other end of the deluded scale.
    OP, maybe your friend just isn't as patient as the rather nice and polite people on this board have been.

    But please, by all means do this experiment. It sounds like an object lesson is called for here, but the person in need of the lesson is in question.
    “In God we trust; all others must bring data.” W. Edwards Deming
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    • #17
      since when has paleo/primal been about gorging yourself on calorie rich foods?!

      The idea is that you eat real, whole foods till you are sated

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      • #18
        Thanks for the responses guys. Actually I had a chat with my buddy and he has gone and changed all the rules ("clarified" - yeah right!) to the point that the experiment would have to take a significantly different form and it's not really worth it any more.

        And I really just wanted to drink hot ghee... FOR SCIENCE!!

        RC

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        • #19
          Originally posted by jakejoh10 View Post
          This is not for science. This is for complete and utter nonsense.
          exactly

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          • #20
            Originally posted by randomcow View Post
            And I really just wanted to drink hot ghee... FOR SCIENCE!!

            RC
            Do it then.

            By the way, I don't think either of you understand the CICO 'argument '.

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            • #21
              I would imagine you would vomit until you pee'd yourself if you drank hot ghee (or any other straight oil) in that quantity; just typing about it makes me feel sick

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              • #22
                Your friend doesn't sound like the kind of person who would change his ideas when presented with any evidence, no matter how conclusive. You are wasting your time. Live your life and let others ask you about it if they are interested.
                Man seeks to change the foods available in nature to suit his tastes, thereby putting an end to the very essence of life contained in them.
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                • #23
                  Maybe you just need to find a new friend?

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                  • #24
                    If you're going to drink loads of ghee/fat in the morning, may as well make it the Bulletproof coffee variety.

                    I love my butter/ghee, but drinking it straight would be pretty gross after a while... though I see you've decided against it altogether, which is for the best.

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                    • #25
                      @OP

                      I forgot to mention: you don't have to prove him anything. But he can try to prove you wrong if he wants

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                      • #26
                        Why not just kick him in the balls and call it a day?


                        But, yeah go ahead with the experiment. I think at an additional 700 calories of pure good fat its likely that a healthy fat adapted metabolism can compensate on the CO end at least in the short term (4 weeks or so).
                        Last edited by Neckhammer; 07-02-2013, 07:08 AM.

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                        • #27
                          Indian wrestlers drink ghee daily to gain fat...

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Zach View Post
                            Indian wrestlers drink ghee daily to gain fat...
                            wait...you mean drinking extra calories, even if its fat, will make you fat??? mind is blown. lol...

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                            • #29
                              CICO conventional wisdom is right. If you eat more than you burn you will gain weight....but the body isn't some simple high school physics experiment. It's a complex chemical factory that PhDs in biochemistry have yet figured it all out. Eating certain foods will increase your appetite. Bodybuilders who do self experimentation all the time figured that out years ago. Fructose doesn't even trigger satiety.

                              Study shows glucose
                              “Increases in fructose consumption have paralleled the increasing prevalence of obesity, and high-fructose diets are thought to promote weight gain and insulin resistance. Fructose ingestion produces smaller increases in circulating satiety hormones compared with glucose ingestion, and central administration of fructose provokes feeding in rodents, whereas centrally administered glucose promotes satiety,” according to background information in the article. “Thus, fructose possibly increases food-seeking behavior and increases food intake.”

                              Tell him to watch these or shut up. At least they'll keep him busy for awhile.
                              Sugar: The Bitter Truth - YouTube
                              The Skinny on Obesity (Ep. 1): An Epidemic for Every Body - YouTube
                              The Fat Switch Book | Weight Control Guide - Mercola.com
                              Would I be putting a grain-feed cow on a fad diet if I took it out of the feedlot and put it on pasture eating the grass nature intended?

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                              • #30
                                Have you done it yet? Chugged the 140g of ghee, I mean. You may experience gastrointestinal distress if you consume that much fat in one sitting without first getting used to it. I just know from the Shangri-La Diet thread that some people experienced diarrhea from drinking just 2-3 tablespoons of coconut oil a day. (I had no such problem when I tried SLD, but I have bowels of steel. SLD didn't work for me either so ...) Anyway, you're talking about drinking 10 tablespoons. You might get the shits at first so better be near a bathroom all day just to be safe...

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