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    So what's the best bacon to consume? What is the deal with nitrates? Are they really bad? How bad? And how much sugar could there be in sugar-cured bacon and ham? Significant amounts? One of my favorites is microwaveable bacon from Kroger......easy, tastes great......so what's wrong with it? Let's talk bacon!
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Barnyard View Post
    So what's the best bacon to consume? What is the deal with nitrates? Are they really bad? How bad? And how much sugar could there be in sugar-cured bacon and ham? Significant amounts? One of my favorites is microwaveable bacon from Kroger......easy, tastes great......so what's wrong with it? Let's talk bacon!
    It's a matter of priorities to you. Lots of people consume uncured bacon, which has no nitrates. Some uncured bacon has no sugar. Or it may be from pastured pigs. All theoretically better.

    They sell uncured bacon at my supermarket for $7.99 a pound, twice the price of regular bacon. I haven't tried it.

    Millions of people do buy conventional bacon and eat it. It hasn't killed them yet. It's no doubt better than froot loops.

    But why buy special microwave bacon? You can microwave any bacon.

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    • #3
      For me, bacon is an occasional thing. I don't go out of my way to buy it, but sometimes it's a yummy treat. Due to an error in a US Wellness order, I got some beef bacon instead of some sugar free beef hot dogs I ordered. Since I have some bison and lamb liver in the freezer, I'll create something with liver and bacon.

      I don't know the best in the supermarkets. I do know that bacon will never nutritionally replace liver, good pastured muscle meats, other pastured offal, etc. It's a treat that doesn't harm you. IMO, it's not a staple. Others will disagree fersure.
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      • #4
        All dried foods go in the "garnish" category for me. I wouldn't consider bacon a proper main course protein, but it's nice for cobb salads and party foods. I also like to save the drip for dark greens and onion sauté.

        Niman Ranch is probably my favorite. I avoid anything with added smoke flavor since it tends to smell pretty foul.
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        • #5
          I had a butcher inform me that the nitrates in bacon is minimal. He said there were more nitrates in beef jerky than there was in bacon. We eat it all the time...my husband lives off of it everyday. I prefer a bit more variety for breaky.

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          • #6
            In fact, the study was pseudo science at its best — an observational study using notoriously fallible food-frequency questionnaires

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            • #7
              I read recently that we ingest (or produce, can't remember) more nitrate than we could ever consume from bacon.

              I don't worry about it.
              I do buy good bacon because, over here, it's the fattier stuff. The cheap supermarket bacon, as well as not being raised responsibly has all the fat bred out and/or trimmed off :/

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              • #8
                I agree with Greenbeast!

                Some info here: The Nitrate and Nitrite Myth: Another Reason not to Fear Bacon

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                • #9
                  Nitrates are organic compounds known to cause cancer. I'm not sure what study that article thought was discredited, other studies compare cancer rates in similar US cities with different nitrate amounts in the drinking water and find different rates of cancer correlated with those levels. This is why people are apoplectic over the Beijing drinking water--nitrate levels-- and why in the USA filtering your water is generally recommended- we allow what I would characterize as fairly high nitrate levels in municipal water supplies (and then we allow it not to be disclosed- cities can choose to disclose the percentage they remove instead of disclosing the actual amount, my city does that).

                  I eat cured bacon. And I drink water straight from the tap. For that matter I eat huge mounds of beautiful fluffy chocolate cake made of wheat. But I don't make a daily habit of any of those things.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by upupandaway View Post
                    Yeah I read that article a few weeks ago.....I know the cheap supermarket stuff will have drawbacks, I guess my question is, how bad could it be?
                    The life I have today is far better than I deserve.......

                    M, 58, 6'0
                    SW - 192
                    CW - 180
                    GW - 165-170

                    Current addiction: ice cream (and sugar in general).....doing battle with it!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by loafingcactus View Post
                      Nitrates are organic compounds known to cause cancer. I'm not sure what study that article thought was discredited, other studies compare cancer rates in similar US cities with different nitrate amounts in the drinking water and find different rates of cancer correlated with those levels. This is why people are apoplectic over the Beijing drinking water--nitrate levels-- and why in the USA filtering your water is generally recommended- we allow what I would characterize as fairly high nitrate levels in municipal water supplies (and then we allow it not to be disclosed- cities can choose to disclose the percentage they remove instead of disclosing the actual amount, my city does that).

                      I eat cured bacon. And I drink water straight from the tap. For that matter I eat huge mounds of beautiful fluffy chocolate cake made of wheat. But I don't make a daily habit of any of those things.
                      lol, love that cake too! But I have managed to only cave in to it every now and then since going primal.....again, as in many things, sounds like moderation is the key......but I could really make bacon a staple of my diet if I didn't think I was doing any harm.....
                      The life I have today is far better than I deserve.......

                      M, 58, 6'0
                      SW - 192
                      CW - 180
                      GW - 165-170

                      Current addiction: ice cream (and sugar in general).....doing battle with it!

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                      • #12
                        I think the nitrate/nitrite issue depends. I know a lot of people that do just fine eating bacon. Maybe they go overboard when they first find out it's not banned and eat a pound a day, but tons of ANY single food gets old and you eventually start foraging for other foods to add in.

                        I can't eat it. You can tell me all day that there are more nitrites in my spit, but I still get a migraine when I eat foods with sodium nitrite and I don't just swallowing my spit. That aso includes meat processed with celery salt, celery seed and celery juice, which are the same chemically but just sound a little less toxic. In fact, many times there are higher levels of sodium nitrite in foods where they use celery seed/salt/juice than if they just straight up use the commercial version. Found that on out the hard way.

                        If it's not a problem for you, I don't know if it will eventually be a problem or not. Am I overly sensitive to it or am I the canary in the coalmine? I know I'm definitely not the only one that has a problem with it, but I can't honestly say if it has a hidden effect on others that don't feel the pain, or if it's only a problem for those of us that do. I also have the same problem (migraine) with wine, both red and white, and I can't see that being detrimental to the average guy unless they're abusing it.
                        Durp.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                          It's a matter of priorities to you. Lots of people consume uncured bacon, which has no nitrates. Some uncured bacon has no sugar. Or it may be from pastured pigs. All theoretically better.

                          They sell uncured bacon at my supermarket for $7.99 a pound, twice the price of regular bacon. I haven't tried it.

                          Millions of people do buy conventional bacon and eat it. It hasn't killed them yet. It's no doubt better than froot loops.

                          But why buy special microwave bacon? You can microwave any bacon.
                          It's fully cooked and can be heated up in 15 seconds.........awesome!!! But there must be something wrong with it, it's too easy and it tastes too good!!!
                          The life I have today is far better than I deserve.......

                          M, 58, 6'0
                          SW - 192
                          CW - 180
                          GW - 165-170

                          Current addiction: ice cream (and sugar in general).....doing battle with it!

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