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  • #46
    Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
    LOL

    You've completely missed it.
    If a vegan claims eggs make them ill because they feel bad about how chickens are treated that's one thing, and if a VLC or person with some sort of eating disorder who isn't even VLC has guilt over eating fruit that's another issue too... we have that on this forum BTW. We even have a few orthorexics that sweat eating some fish and other natural foods because of "OMG" teh PUFAs too!



    But we also have people who are lactose or casein intolerant, nightshade intolerant, egg protein intolerant, people who are sensitive to certain oils like cottonseed or artificial ingredients like Red dye No. 5.
    They know these things from experience and long drawn out elimination diets, not quick guesses and assumptions.


    These things can cause people to end up in emergency rooms with allergic reactions, why not make them sick?
    I have reactions to several prescribed drugs ranging from some general illness symptoms and hives to full on anaphylaxis.
    It's a range of reactions. However with consistent exposure to the drugs I'm only having a mild reaction to my doctor says I could have an anaphylactic reaction in the future. With each exposure the reaction worsens.


    Hell, I'm lactose intolerant... became so as an adult in my late teens to early 20's and it was a HUGE relief to figure out that stopping dairy was the best thing for me. It was literally making me sick.
    I just wish I had known the same thing was true about wheat given what it was doing to my body at the time completely unknown to me. I'll be paying for the for the rest of my life.
    I haven't missed it, because I agree. Food intolerance's are real but it doesn't make them universally bad because a minority don't react well to them. You'll see glowing testimonies over the web for removing lots of different foods. Basically this whole forum believed they were allergic to poatoes and rice a few years ago until Paul jaminet legalized them paleo land.
    Last edited by Forgotmylastusername; 06-23-2013, 12:26 AM.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Forgotmylastusername View Post
      You see the exact same thing in other diet forums. Paleo's that claim all dairy is terrible and giving it up made them feel the best they ever felt. Vegans claiming eggs make them ill, Low fatters claiming a bit of oil makes there blood to coagulate, raw fooders claiming cooked foods caused them to have a miscarriage, low carbers who feel suicidal after eating an apple, etc. The main problem with wheat is the fact that 99% of products which list wheat as the main ingredient are utter junk which are both low quality and contain countless other junk.
      +1

      I suffer from psoriasis. I've been browsing tons of different diet sites for years, and people have been able to put it on remission with all sorts of different regiments, including diets that did not eliminate wheat/gluten.

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      • #48
        Maybe if people ate a good amount of "primal approved" food aside with some organic, wheat, spelt or rye (without vegetable oils, additives and other stuff), like sourdogh bread instead of cookies and junk food, they would not have such a problem with those grains. So I'm standing in the middle of this point of view I guess.
        Take a walk on the wild side.

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        • #49
          I think genetics is a massive part of it. Like those people you know when you're my age (21) who drink 3x a week and live off takeaways and look like they step out of magazines. But just because the results aren't immediate or obvious doesn't mean things aren't happening.

          Sometimes I wonder what I'd spend all my time doing if I didn't have to think about nutrition/health so much.
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          • #50
            What is "fine" anyway. My 20s were a disaster. My weight fluctuated dramatically during my 20s. I was tired a lot. I was sleepy a lot. I mean I had trouble staying awake during the day. I had a lot of depression. I could barely walk up a hill. I was neurotic about my grades. I was always so freezing cold I wore cut off socks on my hands at all times. There was a year where I coughed unrelentingly, started taking cough syrup (codeine kind), took some once and fell asleep and missed my first day of work at a new job. At the same time something was wrong with my intestines and I had to poop all the time although nothing but undigested food came out. Nobody knew of any of this stuff. They probably thought I was fine. I thought I was fine. Doctors said nothing wrong with me. Just stress.

            I'm late 40s now and thank my lucky stars I feel younger and healthier than I did in my 20s.
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            • #51
              When I was 19 I was diagnosed with various food allergies. I went off of those foods and about 15 lbs melted off of me (I didn't have tons to lose) and I was unstoppable as far as energy and focus.

              Two things:
              1. A woman at my allergist's office was so kind and explained to me that you can experience some depression around not being able to eat what everybody else was eating. That just stayed in my mind and kept me in check when I wanted to "be like everyone else.
              2. And MORE important, I am so very grateful now that I became aware--at such a young age--about how food affects our bodies. The bonus is I never consumed soda or candy the way other people did through my 20s and 30s (sans the rare splurge).

              I see now what a beautiful blessing that diagnosis was.

              Also, I was often embarrassed to tell people I had allergies. I made my way the best I could. Now, though, I do say I eat low carb and at least people get it. I don't try to save or convert anyone. What a turn off...I don't want anyone telling me what I should eat.

              So, my suggestion to you is to live to you fullest and let others do the same--even if you don't agree with their choices--and ask them to respect your freedom to choose what feels best for you. Get in touch with why you're doing it and people will pick up on your commitment and leave you alone. Don't explain yourself!

              Hope this helps!

              sg

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              • #52
                Originally posted by troubledstudent View Post
                And I kind of don't know how to respond to that, I guess it's just cause they're young and disease hasn't quite crept up on them yet (even though I have all sorts of symptoms... which I think have been slowly improving since eating Primal).
                This sounds like a pretty good response to me. Your friends are young and disease hasn't quite crept up on them. Simple as that.

                And ya know, everybody has a defect somewhere. If this is your defect, then count your blessings that you identified it and it's easily curable and preventable.

                I didn't "have any problems" either until the acid reflux hit at age 29.
                5'0" female, 45 years old. Started Primal October 31, 2011, at a skinny fat 111.5 lbs. Low weight: 99.5 lb on a fast. Gained back to 115(!) on SAD chocolate, potato chips, and stress. Currently 111.

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                • #53
                  I just want to reiterate that your response should be about what YOU want or about how YOU feel. Anything else can lead to you sounding defensive, or it may put your friends on the defense.

                  "Be the change you seek." In other words, if you don't want anyone telling you what you should or shouldn't eat or feel, then do the same service for them. The best way to do that is completely detach from what they do and respond with something like, "this is what makes me feel good."

                  After all, that's what it is all about.

                  You're doing great!

                  sg
                  Last edited by spicegirl; 06-23-2013, 11:39 AM.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
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                    Wheat is junk, mostly, but I have a hard time believing everyone that claims revelations upon ceasing consumption of wheat. I still eat pizza and pancakes every so often with no problems whatsoever.
                    I'm with you there. I think the primal/paleo diet is a much better way to go than the SAD, but sometimes people just claim ridiculous things from it.

                    You ever read vitamin/supplement reviews? There are always a few people that claim < insert supplement here > cured their depression, gave them a ton of energy, got rid of their joint problems, fixed their tooth decay, reversed their diabetes, improved their sexual performance, gave them restful sleep, etc. Sometimes these things can be true, but I think it's usually a placebo effect.

                    Similar thing can be observed with the diet. I mean it's healthy, and certainly if you had a bad intolerance to things the diet restricts, like wheat, you will indeed feel much better. However, it's not a panacea like some claim.
                    Last edited by quikky; 06-23-2013, 11:57 AM.

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                    • #55
                      You can't begin to understand until you have the actual experience, people can describe it in millions of ways and you will never understand until you find yourself in a similar situation.
                      I too doubted most of this stuff until I went through the process myself.
                      "There are no short cuts to enlightenment, the journey is the destination, you have to walk this path alone"

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                      • #56
                        In the old days, some people just had "bad digestion" their whole lives. And then they would die of "natural causes".

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                          In the old days, some people just had "bad digestion" their whole lives. And then they would die of "natural causes".
                          Wheat is not the only cause of bad digestion.
                          Not everyone who eats wheat has bad digestion.
                          I don't do well with wheat. I also don't do well with butternut squash.

                          Seriously, some of you wheat-o-phobic should spend a few days in Paris and pay attention at how much "wheat" they eat and yet are able to walk just fine wirhout crawling from the stomach pain.
                          Before anyone answers "yeah but the baguette is nothing like that processed crap we have in america" = you are proving my point.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by sauerKraut View Post
                            Wheat is not the only cause of bad digestion.
                            Not everyone who eats wheat has bad digestion.
                            I don't do well with wheat. I also don't do well with butternut squash.

                            Seriously, some of you wheat-o-phobic should spend a few days in Paris and pay attention at how much "wheat" they eat and yet are able to walk just fine wirhout crawling from the stomach pain.
                            Before anyone answers "yeah but the baguette is nothing like that processed crap we have in america" = you are proving my point.
                            There's been countless healthy populations that have consumed wheat. In fact some of the healthiest people in weston price's book consumed whole wheat. The main problem I have is when people dismiss "grains" as bad. It's about as making broad statements like "carbs" are bad. Considering that people have been able to reverse hypertention, obesity and even heart disease and diabetes by eating a lot of whole grains suggests they aren't the great dietary evil people propose.

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                            • #59
                              Many young people smoke cigarettes with no ill effects. This illustrates the point you are trying to make.
                              Man seeks to change the foods available in nature to suit his tastes, thereby putting an end to the very essence of life contained in them.
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                              • #60
                                people have been able to reverse hypertention, obesity and even heart disease and diabetes by eating a lot of whole grains
                                No they haven't. Who, when and where?
                                Crohn's, doing SCD

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