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    So besides being as good as possible about buying quality, grass fed meats and animal products, I was curious what people thought about the fat and skins of animals: bacon, chicken, etc. I'm led to believe the fat is where the highest omega 6 content hangs out vs. the meat of the animal. Does anyone avoid chicken skin and cooking with animal fats other than butter? I'm in love with my soups and broths using both these things. Comprising diet of 70% fat it keeps the ratio's ideal, calories up and just feels and tastes so damn right! Any opinions, input, knowledge, or your personal kitchen habits would be apprecitated. Thanks.

  • #2
    I was under the impression as long as you buy grassfed meats and ate fish on a semi-regular basis (or supplemented with oil) your ratios should be fine, regardless of eating skins/bacon. Plus, they are delicious!!!
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    • #3
      Chicken fat has an unfavourable omega 6 : omega 3 ratio, it's very rich in omega 6 fatty acids. But I eat chicken skin, 'cause I like it. :P
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      • #4
        I remember as a kid I always got scolded for eat the chicken skin. I always thought it was the most delicious part.

        I know realize that even as a kid, deep down my inner grok was influencing me and I didn't even know it.

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        • #5
          Stu, that's funny--my 6 year old knows what's up too--she eats the skin off her roast chicken first, looks at me and says, "got any more skin?" I usually end up peeling the skin off about a third of the chicken for her. She thinks her friends who will only eat boneless skinless breasts--"the blonde chicken"--as she calls it, are really missing out.

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          • #6
            I think that the chicken omega ratio is worse than grassfed beef or lamb (or wild-caught ocean fish) because chickens, being birds, are set up to eat grain as well as bugs, scraps, etc. So it's more reasonable to feed them grain than feeding it to ruminant animals.

            We obsess about omega 6 because the feedlot meat and vegetable oils are so full of it, but if we avoid mass-produced meat, then having some omega 6 is at least a little bit necessary, isn't it?

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            • #7
              I hate chicken skin, a lot. I have some chicken skin and chicken fat here from making a stock and I came on to see what to do with it, because I'm always hearing around these parts how good it is for you...

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              • #8
                Im wondering what the ratio of 6:3 is for grass fed butter?
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                • #9
                  Eating chicken skin's one of the "naughty" things you should be enjoying once you go primal! (After all, Grok surely ate animal skin.) All kidding aside, yes, chicken fat IS high on the omega-6s relative to the omega-3s, though not nearly as much as you might fear. So don't sweat it. Cut way back on the veg oils, limit nuts and seeds, eat some seafood, and if all else fails, take a supplement.
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                  • #10
                    If you're not eating processed foods, taking an omega 3 Supp. , and eating wild sources of fresh fish regularly, your ratios will be fine. Chicken skin and other natural animal foods are not the culprit. Its the heavy processing and unstable polyunsaturated oils (soy, canola, other commercial vegetable oils) involved in prepackaged food, and large amounts of processed carbohydrates that cause omega 6 ratios to become less than ideal.

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                    • #11
                      Styopa posted a link to a study about the omega 3/6 content of butter recently:
                      Study: http://www.greenpeace.de/fileadmin/g...ter_omega3.pdf
                      Post: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...tent-of-butter

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                      • #12
                        I'm dealing with metabolic syndrome and pre diabetic inflammation so that may make me different than most primals. I get a plenty of inflammatory omega 6 from nuts and bacon. I am avoiding chicken skin and the refined seed and veg pufa oils. I'd like to see my 6:3 ratio something like 1:2 in favor of omega 3s. I don't know how to measure that ratio, but I think I read it takes a long time for your body to establish the healthier balance even if you stick to a solid diet of omega 3s. I'm not worried about the fats in beef because the pufa is very low. Grass fed has a better ratio, but in fairly insignificant amounts, so I'll eat grass fed, organic, and even feedlot beef depending on what I can find. Avoiding chicken skin helps me not worry about the beef too. Chicken skin is awesome when it's part crunchy and part chewy with lots of salty spices, but I'm making lean, white breast meat very fatty with butter, olive oil, coconut oil and heavy cream sauces.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Darrin View Post
                          Eating chicken skin's one of the "naughty" things you should be enjoying once you go primal!
                          Oh, now if we talk about FISH skin, thats an ENTIRELY different story! I eat mine and everyone else's.

                          But chicken skin... ugh! I'll be alone in my kitchen trying... TRYING... to eat the chicken skin... and I'm like a 4 year old with spinach. I'm like, NOT DIGGING IT! I've always hated it though-- the texture of fat, skin, and gristle has always sent me reeling, ever since childhood. My dad would BBQ an amazing golden brown chicken and I'd be the only one peeling off the skin...

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                          • #14
                            There is less Omega 6 in FIVE 3 ounce servings of dark chicken WITH skin than there is in the ONE tablespoon of olive oil that you are cooking it in.

                            There is less Omega 6 in a 32 ounce GRAIN FED steak than there is in TWELVE almonds.

                            Worrying about Omega 6 ratios in meat is WASTE OF EFFORT.
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