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  • #16
    Originally posted by Cryptocode View Post
    I've tried a few. I had great results with Valerian Root for sleepiness for about two weeks. Then the effect tapered off and finally disappeared. As if I had become dependent or adapted to it. So I stopped it and switched to Gaia Sleep tea. That worked for another 2 weeks and is now tappering off.

    This year I've planted a lot of the normal cooking herbs and they're growing beautifully. I chop them up and add them to almost every thing. But I've noted no difference other than taste.
    A lot of sources I've run into say that you can "adapt" to herbs just as much as you can your diet. I've heard it suggested that because tinctures are more concentrated, it's harder to adapt to them so that's one advantage to them, however, rotating herbs is always a good idea. I've heard it suggested that many herbs you can do well on for a period of several weeks but then, maybe one week a month, you should "rest" that herb and try another for a bit. Then you can come back to the herb you were on previously and hopefully your body hasn't remained adapted to it and you can still continue to experience the effects of it. If that makes any sense.
    "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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    • #17
      Make sure to cycle the ashwagandha, it seems to lose its power after awhile. I like to cycle it with Siberian Ginsing, usually weekly. Both have had positive effects on overall health.

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      • #18
        My first thought was low testosterone, which could now be back in balance - it does tend to fluctuate. Get it checked next time your feeling fatigued and not quite yourself.
        Last edited by canuck416; 06-19-2013, 02:01 PM.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Zach View Post
          Make sure to cycle the ashwagandha, it seems to lose its power after awhile. I like to cycle it with Siberian Ginsing, usually weekly. Both have had positive effects on overall health.
          I was debating what other herbs to try in addition to the ashwagandha. I will probably continue the ashwagandha until the bottle is empty, then go on another herb until that bottle is empty... Maybe go back to the ashwagandha again afterwards.

          I was thinking tulsi (holy basil to some) might be a fine choice once the ashwagandha is out since it is one of the best known of the "adaptogenic" herbs as well. I could get leaves straight and make a tisane out of it or go with a tincture again. Eleuthero root is another fine choice as well though.
          "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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          • #20
            Originally posted by canuck416 View Post
            My first thought was low testosterone, which could now be back in balance - it does tend to fluctuate. Get it checked next time your feeling fatigued and not quite yourself.
            I thought this too at first, but I haven't really noticed any of the other symptoms that are typically associated with a "flagging" testosterone level.
            "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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            • #21
              I definitely feel ashwagandha has been the most potent adaptogen, the siberian ginsing has been good as well but its more of a stimulant where as ashwa has more of a bulletproof feel, also a viagra like effect. Rohdiolia rosea(sp) was much weaker then these two, not sure i felt anything off it. The forst two i used the alochol tinctures though and the rohdiolia was a capsule. I will give it another try in liquid form.

              Have not tried Hy Basil, thanks for the suggestion, im going to pick it up next time. I really do like adaptogens.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Drumroll View Post
                I was debating what other herbs to try in addition to the ashwagandha. I will probably continue the ashwagandha until the bottle is empty, then go on another herb until that bottle is empty... Maybe go back to the ashwagandha again afterwards.

                I was thinking tulsi (holy basil to some) might be a fine choice once the ashwagandha is out since it is one of the best known of the "adaptogenic" herbs as well. I could get leaves straight and make a tisane out of it or go with a tincture again. Eleuthero root is another fine choice as well though.
                ...hmmm, IMO, this is the wrong approach. With any of these 'herbs' where a potential for tolerance can occur, it is always better to take regular SHORT breaks, than to take a product for longer, prolonged periods, and then be forced to take several months off.

                By following a simple weekly schedule (and adjusting as individual tolerance requires) -- so perhaps something like five days ON, followed by two days OFF -- the better the chances you can benefit from any/all sustained therapeutic effects, without end.

                Find a schedule that works in such a way that tolerance is prevented, and only valuable therapeutic effects are experienced...hebs

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Drumroll View Post
                  I thought this too at first, but I haven't really noticed any of the other symptoms that are typically associated with a "flagging" testosterone level.
                  It doesn't necessarily effect you "down there" but it does manifest itself in other ways - that feeling of not being quite right, lacking in energy and motivation. Believe me its worth checking out.
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                  • #24
                    Back in 1976, my husband at the time and I went to a holistic chiropractor who subscribed to Edgar Cayce methods. He had us taking supplements/herbs during the week days and off on the weekends. It's difficult to remember exactly why, but I'm think it was to keep the body from adjusting to them.

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                    • #25
                      I just wanted to provide an update. I started taking rhodiola maybe two weeks ago, and it actually works! I always thought that I had a weird circadian rhythm--not really a morning person, I prefer to go to bed around 12 or 1 am and sleep until 9 or 10. This doesn't work at all with my crossfit and work schedules. Since starting crossfit, I've been getting up at 5 or 6 am and trying to go to bed by 9 or 10 pm. I often can't get to sleep that early. Will lie in bed and stress about not falling asleep/not getting enough sleep. Then, the next day, I'll be tired in the afternoon but awake again by bed time. The rhodiola fixed this completely, and I fall asleep immediately when I go to bed around 10. Not tired in the afternoons anymore either.

                      I recently switched the rhodiola with ashwagandha, and I don't think it works as well. But i've only been taking it for two days so can't say for sure yet.

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