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  • #46
    Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
    For portable meals I chop up some cooked meat and keep it in a tupperware. I will either put a sweet potato in the microwave and eat it with the meat or else I will cook up some vegetables and put it in the tupperware to carry with me. The meat is usually leftover from the night before or else keep cooked chicken on hand in the freezer and thaw some every few days.
    Just a heads up. Tupperware made before 2010 is chock full of BPA.
    Don't use any of the old stuff. And I wouldn't trust any new stuff either.

    To the OP: According to the success stoires, those first 50 pounds are pretty easy; it's the last 20 which are more difficult. If your husband has been Primal for 3-4 YEARS and made no progress at all, I don't think a tweak like IF-ing or gluten free beer is going to help. I agree with the recommendation of getting thoroughly tested by a specialist.
    5'0" female, 45 years old. Started Primal October 31, 2011, at a skinny fat 111.5 lbs. Low weight: 99.5 lb on a fast. Gained back to 115(!) on SAD chocolate, potato chips, and stress. Currently 111.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
      If you have any problem with wheat your likely to have bloat and other issues with beer. Just no getting around it. Plus you are drinking calories. Plus alcohol always burns first so its supercharged carbs . And to answer choco beer made of wheat in an intolerant individual will have inflammatory, autoimmune, and hormonal effect that will lead to a general environment of stress and fat storage.

      Anyhow, there was a fella from the other side of the spectrum on MDA testomonial of the week who drank a couple beers every night and reached single digit body fat and terrific health. Obviously he's on the heartier end of the wheat tolerance spectrum. That said he was also VLC and his only carb indulgence was the beer.
      It's also important to note that most beer doesn't contain wheat. It's barley providing the gluten, which is less problematic since it is less likely to be GMO.

      Linky:

      Is Non-Alcoholic Beer Healthy? | Mark's Daily Apple

      According to Sisson:

      The only thing that might keep you away is the gluten content. The market for good gluten-free beers is somewhat limited, and the market for good nonalcoholic gluten-free beers is even more limited. Luckily, the brewing process generally removes most of the gluten from beer, and, at any rate, the gluten content of beer pales in comparison to the gluten content of something like bread. One test of fifty beers found that 35 of them contained between 1 and 200 ppm of gluten, and 15 had less than 1 ppm. As a comparison, wheat bread has roughly 75,000 ppm of gluten. According to the World Health Organization, food with less than 20 ppm can be labeled “gluten-free,” though your mileage may vary.
      So, in closing, you'd have to drink 1,000 Miller Lites to roughly equal the gluten content of a calorically equivalent serving of white bread.

      Plus, the beer is fermented as well, which should help degrade the gluten on top of that.

      I see virtually no point in drinking gluten-free beer as regular beer contains barely any extra gluten versus gluten-free beers. Now, if you're drinking unfiltered wheat beer I don't know what that outcome would be, but standard fare - Bud Light, Miller Lite, Heiniken, Yuengling...I'm not concerned. Fattening? Oh yea, alcohol calories on top of normal calories in a surplus is about as fattening as it gets. But I couldn't care less about trace fermented gluten.
      Last edited by ChocoTaco369; 06-11-2013, 12:26 PM.
      Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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      • #48
        I react with classical intestinal symptoms to alcoholic beverages that contain gluten, and on the gluten-sensitivity scale, I'm not a hot reactor. To assume the gluten in regular beer should not trigger a reaction in a person who is sensitive to gluten in some way is an invalid assumption.

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        • #49
          Your poor fat husband. Too much advice and now it's going to become a choco carb/calorie rant. Good luck to him. I hope he finds something that works.
          Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by kathleen View Post
            Beer. Beer makes you fat, and it keeps you fat. If he really insists, get him some gluten free beer like New Grist.
            um no. just no.

            beer in and of itself doesn't make you fat. it's the over consumption of calories via beer and not accounting for the calories being consumed or from the increased eating people tend to do when drinking. I had beer with a friend twice a week during my last dieting bout and still managed to lose 1.5lbs a week.

            and gluten beer is only special if you are gluten sensitive or celiac. It may have the added benefit of slightly lower calories though I can't attest to that because I've never looked into the calorie content of gluten free beer

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            • #51
              Originally posted by PaleoMum View Post
              He is 45 and is the primary carer of our three children (including a toddler) and his 88-year-old mother
              How does he feel about this? Not what he says, but what are the actual feelings he feels inside? A lot of women would find this emotionally, if not physically, exhausting and men have a whole 'nother level of cultural sneering to deal with. Being man enough to be willing to do what his family needs is my kind of man, though.
              Originally posted by PaleoMum View Post
              He hates being so fat, hates his gut, feels ashamed and judged. Any help or advice, people? I love him and I want him to be happy and healthy.
              Feeling bad, especially about yourself, is a *horrible* place to start when taking on a challenge.

              Only you and he (actually, only he) can judge what the problem is, but I drink a lot of beer, eat moderate carb and the only thing that was holding me back - for 25 years - was where my head was.
              50yo, 5'3"
              SW-195
              CW-125, part calorie counting, part transition to primal
              GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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              • #52
                Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                Your poor fat husband. Too much advice and now it's going to become a choco carb/calorie rant. Good luck to him. I hope he finds something that works.
                The only thing more obnoxious than obviously false CW statements revolving around the dangers of saturated fat and cholesterol is the blind paleotard statements around calories and carbohydrates. I'm guessing if a thread popped up about eggs being unhealthy due to cholesterol content it would blow up. Statements revolving around insulin fairy tales and the inherent fattening properties of grains should be equally negatively accosted, if not more as they insult the intelligence of the community as a whole.
                Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                  The only thing more obnoxious than obviously false CW statements revolving around the dangers of saturated fat and cholesterol is the blind paleotard statements around calories and carbohydrates. I'm guessing if a thread popped up about eggs being unhealthy due to cholesterol content it would blow up. Statements revolving around insulin fairy tales and the inherent fattening properties of grains should be equally negatively accosted, if not more as they insult the intelligence of the community as a whole.
                  Or the countercultural paleotard statements about sugar / low fat eating?
                  Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                  Griff's cholesterol primer
                  5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                  Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                  TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                  bloodorchid is always right

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                    Or the countercultural paleotard statements about sugar / low fat eating?
                    What would they be? I've yet to see anyone promote a low fat diet around here.
                    Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                    • #55
                      Thanks everyone. I'm not sure about the recommendations to get tests done at the doctor - we're in the UK and you can't really get that sort of stuff done on the NHS. His doctor wants to put him on weight-loss pills (don't worry, there's no way we would go for that). We had a long chat about it last night with the upshot that he's either going to try some IF or maybe a combination of LC and calorie-control. I'm also going to keep working on him to take more exercise. Fingers crossed!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by PaleoMum View Post
                        Thanks everyone. I'm not sure about the recommendations to get tests done at the doctor - we're in the UK and you can't really get that sort of stuff done on the NHS. His doctor wants to put him on weight-loss pills (don't worry, there's no way we would go for that). We had a long chat about it last night with the upshot that he's either going to try some IF or maybe a combination of LC and calorie-control. I'm also going to keep working on him to take more exercise. Fingers crossed!
                        I am no expert on thyroid tests , but you could do some more reading on it. My own situation
                        was that my regular general practitioner did standard blood tests for me and my thyroid blood
                        work turned up nothing. I went later to a doctor specializing in environmental medicine, and he
                        said my symptoms were classic of low thyroid function and that the standard thyroid blood test
                        was missing things in most people with low thyroid. He knew of a newer blood test protocol which
                        he wanted to do, so he had me tested and then put on thyroid medicine.
                        Since going on the thyroid medicine my energy surged and I began losing weight.
                        There may be some way your husband can benefit from this, its only a blood test .

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                        • #57
                          I'll look into the thyroid question. I doubt our doctor will do any but the most basic tests, though.

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                          • #58
                            PaleoMom, I am in the same situation, being in Canada, where the plethora of testing is simply not available, but one thing I would recommend is taking a look at Practical Paleo, and if any of the profile fits, trying out the food selections recommended for 30 days. All of the approaches are perfectly healthy, and if one of them shows signs of improvement over what you are doing currently, then that would be a good outcome. If it doesn't work, well, you are back to Square 1.
                            My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                            When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

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                            • #59
                              Honestly, I'd do a Whole 30 just to rule out any issues with the dairy or beer.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                                The only thing more obnoxious than obviously false CW statements revolving around the dangers of saturated fat and cholesterol is the blind paleotard statements around calories and carbohydrates. I'm guessing if a thread popped up about eggs being unhealthy due to cholesterol content it would blow up. Statements revolving around insulin fairy tales and the inherent fattening properties of grains should be equally negatively accosted, if not more as they insult the intelligence of the community as a whole.
                                Yours was the only advice I thought was worthwhile. But you couldn't leave it at that.
                                Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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