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  • #31
    Originally posted by kathleen View Post
    Beer. Beer makes you fat, and it keeps you fat. If he really insists, get him some gluten free beer like New Grist.
    I don't see how gluten free beer would be any less fattening than normal beer. It would probably be worse because there are lots of light varieties of regular beers. The gluten content of beer is so incredibly low anyway it's insignificant unless you are a super-sensitive celiac. And then what is there is fermented, further rendering it inert. One or two beers once or twice a week probably won't affect weight much. 4-5 beers every other day...that's a problem.
    Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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    • #32
      The beer he's having once in a while is most likely not the reason he is staying the same weight.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Castle View Post
        Why is skipping meals regularly a bad idea? I've tried Mark's powder, and would honestly much rather go without than drink my food like that.
        First, we all skip meals occasionally, and on occasion intentionally.
        For example, my office assistant was out on leave today, so I was filling her shoes and mine as well.
        I got busy, and really, simply forgot to eat. I had water, but that was it.

        Tonight, when I finally got home around 10pm, I realized that I was hungry!
        Had it not been for my own willpower, I'd have likely binged.

        Organized fasting is one thing, but it's been my experience over that skipping meals as I just described, didn't work out well when I was attempting to lose weight.

        The was it was explained to me years ago, and found again while when I was doing some research, that keeping the machine fueled prevented the body from thinking that it was going to be a while before it was fed again, thus causing us to store fat for energy.

        If the body realizes that it's going to be fed on a regular basis, we have a tendency to burn that excess fat.

        I'm no bio-researcher. All I do know is, that doing what I did today on a regular basis, always derailed my weight loss.

        As for Marks meal replacement drinks, to each their own.
        While I've never found one that mixed well when using the shaker cup, much less had any sort of consistency great than muddy water, I do find that when I use the blender and some ice, they come out very think and tasty.
        That said, most of us don't carry around a blender in our pockets.

        I guess my point was, not so much to make it a regular thing, but on those days when he's going to be too busy to stop for lunch or??, that he could at least knock one of the drinks out for it's nutritional value.

        Frankly, I happen to like the coconut flavoring in Marks mix, but that's just me
        Last edited by Off Duty; 06-10-2013, 09:37 PM.
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        • #34
          For portable meals I chop up some cooked meat and keep it in a tupperware. I will either put a sweet potato in the microwave and eat it with the meat or else I will cook up some vegetables and put it in the tupperware to carry with me. The meat is usually leftover from the night before or else keep cooked chicken on hand in the freezer and thaw some every few days.
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          • #35
            If he is holding most of his weight around the midsection, that could imply he has issues with cortisol and in that case IF might not be a good idea (more stress bad).

            How is his sleep? If he is not getting at least 8+ hours a night in a very dark (read: pitch black) room, then that is the first thing to get dialed in IMO. Bad/Inadequate sleep can torpedo weight loss in some folks and dialing it in is really one of the best things you can do for your health overall.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
              I don't see how gluten free beer would be any less fattening than normal beer. It would probably be worse because there are lots of light varieties of regular beers. The gluten content of beer is so incredibly low anyway it's insignificant unless you are a super-sensitive celiac. And then what is there is fermented, further rendering it inert. One or two beers once or twice a week probably won't affect weight much. 4-5 beers every other day...that's a problem.
              Celiac's is irrelevant; the difference between gluten-free beer and regular beer is that one is made of wheat, barley, or oats, and the other is made is sorghum, rice, or buckwheat. I would take rice beer over wheat beer any day. The point I am trying to make is liquid wheat makes you gain, and I know this from experience.
              Stumbled into Primal due to food allergies, and subsequent elimination of non-primal foods.

              Start Gluten-Free/Soy-Free: December 2012; start weight 158lbs, Ladies size 6
              Start Primal: March 2013, start weight 150lbs, Ladies size 6
              Current: 132lbs, Ladies size 2
              F/23/5'9"

              26lbs lost since cutting the crap.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by kathleen View Post
                Celiac's is irrelevant; the difference between gluten-free beer and regular beer is that one is made of wheat, barley, or oats, and the other is made is sorghum, rice, or buckwheat. I would take rice beer over wheat beer any day. The point I am trying to make is liquid wheat makes you gain, and I know this from experience.
                But how is beer made of "wheat, barley or oats" more fattening than beer made of "sorghum, rice or buckwheat?" It isn't.
                Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                • #38
                  All hail ChocoTaco and his infinite wisdom.


                  Anyway, I gained quite a few pounds in fat when I turned 21. After I quit beer, I lost quite a few pounds. I believe the carb count is lower in the gluten free beers, as well. Not only did the beer put on weight for me, but it also made me bloated all the time. That was the wheat, according to my doctor. Whenever I have gluten free beers, I don't feel that way. Not saying your husband will necessarily benefit from cutting beer, but I don't know anyone who regularly drinks beer (even once a week) and doesn't have a 'beer belly.' Something to try; what worked for me might work for someone else.
                  Stumbled into Primal due to food allergies, and subsequent elimination of non-primal foods.

                  Start Gluten-Free/Soy-Free: December 2012; start weight 158lbs, Ladies size 6
                  Start Primal: March 2013, start weight 150lbs, Ladies size 6
                  Current: 132lbs, Ladies size 2
                  F/23/5'9"

                  26lbs lost since cutting the crap.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by kathleen View Post
                    Not saying your husband will necessarily benefit from cutting beer, but I don't know anyone who regularly drinks beer (even once a week) and doesn't have a 'beer belly.'
                    It's because you don't know me yet...
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by kathleen View Post
                      All hail ChocoTaco and his infinite wisdom.


                      Anyway, I gained quite a few pounds in fat when I turned 21. After I quit beer, I lost quite a few pounds. I believe the carb count is lower in the gluten free beers, as well. Not only did the beer put on weight for me, but it also made me bloated all the time. That was the wheat, according to my doctor. Whenever I have gluten free beers, I don't feel that way. Not saying your husband will necessarily benefit from cutting beer, but I don't know anyone who regularly drinks beer (even once a week) and doesn't have a 'beer belly.' Something to try; what worked for me might work for someone else.
                      What?

                      You gained weight because you went out and started drinking on top of all your normal food habits. People don't displace food calories for beer. They simply add beer. If you gained less weight on gluten free beer, it's probably because there are very few decent gluten free beers and most are light, watered down drinks at best, or they were comparatively unpleasant to drink and you drank less. Bloat is also not real weight. People with severe gluten intolerances may "bloat", but it's water weight that goes away in a few days. Most people won't have this reaction.

                      It's simple overconsumption. The snooty attitude isn't advisable when you follow it up with paleotard logic. If you're going to be unpleasant, at least argue with facts and not fiction.
                      Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                      • #41
                        If you have any problem with wheat your likely to have bloat and other issues with beer. Just no getting around it. Plus you are drinking calories. Plus alcohol always burns first so its supercharged carbs . And to answer choco beer made of wheat in an intolerant individual will have inflammatory, autoimmune, and hormonal effect that will lead to a general environment of stress and fat storage.

                        Anyhow, there was a fella from the other side of the spectrum on MDA testomonial of the week who drank a couple beers every night and reached single digit body fat and terrific health. Obviously he's on the heartier end of the wheat tolerance spectrum. That said he was also VLC and his only carb indulgence was the beer.
                        Last edited by Neckhammer; 06-11-2013, 11:21 AM.

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                        • #42
                          I think though that it is worth ditching the beer for a month or two on the chance it is gluten intolerance. Not going to hurt.

                          I can eat small amounts of wheat and drink a beer or two and be no worse for the wear, but I figured it out.

                          And I know a BUNCH of guys that drink beer without a beer gut; most also work out and otherwise watch what they eat, but, no they don't have a gut.

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                          • #43
                            Tell him to have his thyroid tested by the doctor. Tell him to demand not just a standard thyroid test
                            but the more advanced tests. Better yet go to a different doctor, one specializing in environmental
                            medicine and allergies etc., that type of doctor is far more likely to order the proper thyroid tests.

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                            • #44
                              Alchohol in general can make you deshydrated and bloated at the same time. Here where I live beer are also made made from maize or rice and there are no diffence from beer that comes from wheat in respect of "fattening", and no people that I have ever heard about here are "intolerant" to any beer...
                              "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

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                              • #45
                                Another vote for ditch the beer. At least for a couple of weeks to see if it helps. If it does, it's clearly worth doing for a bit longer. I've basically ditched alcohol until I hit maintenance mode. It's just not worth it and I find it easier to cut something completely than try to moderate. Another thing that helped me was cutting out dairy. I didn't do it to improve weight loss, but that's the effect it had. Maybe as others have said, use double cream for tea (yes, I know it sounds wrong, but it works, because you lose much less) if he can't take black tea. I'm vlc and I prefer to eat that way as I don't really miss carbs. I didn't think I could drink black tea, but I've got used to it and use weaker blends rather than my PG Tips.

                                Also tracking. It's worth knowing just how much you're eating and what your ratios are before messing with them.
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