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    While I would prefer meat to anything else, there are times where I don't feel like cooking. Greens have kind of failed me (or have I failed them?!) as no matter what I seem to buy, I'd rather pull out the pan and fry up some sausage then toss together a salad. Greens just kind of rot in the crisper D:

    I generally only eat once per day on most days (no time before work, no desire/supplies at work), so in an effort to make sure I get my protein up, I've found myself consuming a lot of dairy lately. Milk at first, but now tending mostly towards yogurt, with occasional kefir. Heavy preference towards full fat yogurt (surprisingly difficult to find around here), without any additives. Going to be getting myself a slow cooker to make my own ASAP so I have a continual supply of the stuff.

    Unfortunately all the organic milk around here is Ultra-Pasteurized, which I have read is really bad for yogurt making.

    Recently reintroduced myself to the greek style stuff, though the only full fat greek style is Dannon, which has a poor reputation (and, so far, inconsistent flavor - one bucket was tart as regular yogurt but the one I have open now is sweet...weird).

    Naturally, I'm going as close to the "organic" side as possible, as Stonyfield is basically best I can find so far.

    I know yogurt is in a grey zone, but has anyone else found themselves keeping a considerable portion of their dietary protein and fat from yogurt? It is certainly cheap protein, even gram for gram I think - thereabouts $2.50 per pound.

    Also, does that whole probiotic noise hold up in the primalsphere? Mark's posts seem to suggest it's largely bunk for doing anything to adults.

    M.

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    I don't think it's ideal. I consume a lot of dairy, and I don't feel that it's been helping my body comp any.

    That being said, you could do a lot worse.

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    • #3
      I use yogurt for dessert only, in fairly small amounts. Berries with full fat greek yogurt and raw honey is divine.

      Mark sells probiotics on this website, how can he suggest that it's bunk?
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      • #4
        I eat Fage Greek yogurt daily, love it. Can't complain about anything since I'm at my goal weight and staying there. It's awesome for my digestion, I'll tell you that.
        F 28/5'4/100 lbs

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MEversbergII View Post

          Unfortunately all the organic milk around here is Ultra-Pasteurized, which I have read is really bad for yogurt making.

          Recently reintroduced myself to the greek style stuff, though the only full fat greek style is Dannon, which has a poor reputation (and, so far, inconsistent flavor - one bucket was tart as regular yogurt but the one I have open now is sweet...weird).

          Naturally, I'm going as close to the "organic" side as possible, as Stonyfield is basically best I can find so far.

          I know yogurt is in a grey zone, but has anyone else found themselves keeping a considerable portion of their dietary protein and fat from yogurt? It is certainly cheap protein, even gram for gram I think - thereabouts $2.50 per pound.

          Also, does that whole probiotic noise hold up in the primalsphere? Mark's posts seem to suggest it's largely bunk for doing anything to adults.

          M.
          I didn't do dairy for about 6 months or so when I first started eating paleo. Then on occasion I would have goat cheese or goat kefir. But now I have dairy everyday. I'm not sure if my gut repaired during that time or what. Most don't react the same to goat milk as to cow's milk. I hear ya on the dannon greek, I've been buying that (don't eat it much though). I buy raw goat milk and cheese from a local farmer. Do you have access to raw goat milk there? Trader Joes and Wholefoods both carry goat milk products but they aren't raw.

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          • #6
            Why is ultrapasteurized milk bad for making yogurt? Won't the cultures just turn all the junk into yogurty goodness regardless?

            I have made yogurt myself just putting the warm milk and cultures in a clean mayonnaise jar in the oven next to the oven light. It seemed to work best with low-fat milk as the whole milk I bought (cream at the top kind) kind of ended up with the fat turning into yellow oil when the milk was heated and thus ruined for the cultures.

            If you can find Wallaby brand, it's got no additives.
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            • #7
              I eat Greek yogurt nearly daily, full fat. It is slightly high in carbs for some VLC folk, but it hasn't affected me since I'm moderate carb. I've lost weight fine eating it. Agree with Damiana, Fage is amazing and creamy! It also helps your digestion. Dairy can stall some people for weight loss, though and you should always keep your dairy consumption moderate. Personally I say it's fine.

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              • #8
                A slow cooker is not really going to help you make yogurt. Get a large pot, some jars, a small portable cooler, and a candy thermometer.

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                • #9
                  Oh, forgot about this thread! Thanks for the links nameless. The slowcooker was mostly for a hands off approach, but that method might work just as well it looks like.

                  Sbhikes, though UP milk is done shorter, the higher temps wreck everything. I've heard it simply makes watery yogurt, if anything at all.

                  Sadly, all my raw milk leads are duds - Maryland :|

                  I'm also going to start trying various brands of yogurt that I have around here.

                  M.

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                  • #10
                    I have a cup of full fat yogurt with a half pound of fruit for dinner sometimes... I have noticed no ill effects.
                    The above should be viewed as complete and utter nonsense.

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                    • #11
                      Awesome....I do stuff like that too....I probably eat more dairy than I should, but no ill effects to this point
                      The life I have today is far better than I deserve.......

                      M, 58, 6'0
                      SW - 192
                      CW - 180
                      GW - 165-170

                      Current addiction: ice cream (and sugar in general).....doing battle with it!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by aliphian View Post
                        I have a cup of full fat yogurt with a half pound of fruit for dinner sometimes... I have noticed no ill effects.
                        Awesome....I do stuff like that too....I probably eat more dairy than I should, but no ill effects to this point
                        The life I have today is far better than I deserve.......

                        M, 58, 6'0
                        SW - 192
                        CW - 180
                        GW - 165-170

                        Current addiction: ice cream (and sugar in general).....doing battle with it!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Barnyard View Post
                          Awesome....I do stuff like that too....I probably eat more dairy than I should, but no ill effects to this point
                          The Greek Gods full fat yogurt.....more fat than protein.....found it at Kroger
                          The life I have today is far better than I deserve.......

                          M, 58, 6'0
                          SW - 192
                          CW - 180
                          GW - 165-170

                          Current addiction: ice cream (and sugar in general).....doing battle with it!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Barnyard View Post
                            The Greek Gods full fat yogurt.....more fat than protein.....found it at Kroger
                            That is what I get too! I get it at Winco.
                            The above should be viewed as complete and utter nonsense.

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                            • #15
                              I was going to recommend you finding out if milk from Trickling Springs Creamery was sold in your area, but when I looked the 2 closest placesavailable were Prince Frederick MD (Spider Hall Farm) and Denison's Grocery in Colonial Beach VA. The creamery is in Chambersburg PA and they deliver all over the place in Maryland, Pennsylvania some places in Delaware, New Jersey and Virginia. Their milk is not ultra pasteurized and it's in glass bottles AND you can get non-homogenized (cream line) milk. I drive about 10 miles every one or two weeks to a store near Chesapeake City MD to get their milk.

                              They have fantastic ice cream and raw milk cheeses too.
                              Last edited by Lynna; 06-14-2013, 09:58 AM.

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