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    I started 7 days ago leangains IF. It's going quite well, but every day around 14-15 hrs into the fast, I start feeling a bit weak and sometimes dizzy and lightheaded. Is this normal until body gets used to it, or I'm one of these that IF is not for?

    Is leangains IF supposed to be done every day or should I have breaks during the week?

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    low blood sugar from not eating
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    • #3
      I have fat that I want to cut. I'm primal 3 years. Hasn't my body figured out how to use fat to get that sugar up? From what I've read only very low fat folks (<8% body fat) should have these problems...

      My fasting glucose is fine (now it's 88, although 1.5 years ago it was 104, and 3 years ago before primal almost 120)

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      • #4
        Just keep in mind Derp consumes copious amounts of illegal drugs, caffeine, and candy on a daily basis when taking any nutritional advice from him.

        Not that he's a bad guy, he just probably won't be saying things you're going to find too helpful to you.
        "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Nursultan Tuyakbay View Post
          I have fat that I want to cut. I'm primal 3 years. Hasn't my body figured out how to use fat to get that sugar up? From what I've read only very low fat folks (<8% body fat) should have these problems...

          My fasting glucose is fine (now it's 88, although 1.5 years ago it was 104, and 3 years ago before primal almost 120)
          It doesn't work that way, I'm just telling you what it is. Try to get more electrolytes while fasting, see if that helps.

          Just keep in mind Derp consumes copious amounts of illegal drugs, caffeine, and candy on a daily basis when taking any nutritional advice from him.
          No, I really don't.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
            No, I really don't.
            The 12 cups of coffee you boast about per day isn't "copious?"

            Plus, you eat pretty much every two or so hours, right? Totally not what he's trying to achieve here. Maybe he's totally off base, but I would say he just needs more time to adjust. IFing can be useful although it's not for expecting immediate results from. Enter into it slowly and with caution would be my advice.

            Even a full week (which he's been doing it since) is not enough time for some people. I've heard totals of up to a month suggested for certain individuals to adequately adjust to an appropriate IFing schedule.

            Patience is warranted here.
            "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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            • #7
              I wouldn't have made that statement about you Derp, but still... I don't think you are someone most people looking to go on Leangains would want to take advice from if they were aware of your daily consumption habits as in breakfasts of alcohol, tons of coffee and sugar, frequent meals... and playing with strange supps.


              Yes to Keeping on top of those electrolytes, good call.

              I naturally gravitated to an IF pattern of eating so I never had to try and change on purpose... never had to face these problems. But I suspect that if you are forcing a change that there will be some adjustment and maybe you'd want to spend a little time stretching the window out to make it easier on your body.
              Or, you know... you can just try to power through it. But that would not be my instinct if you aren't on some strict deadline for a competition or something like one of my friends does sometimes for her body competitions when she cuts.
              Last edited by cori93437; 06-08-2013, 10:54 AM.
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              ~Friedrich Nietzsche
              And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Drumroll View Post
                The 12 cups of coffee you boast about per day isn't "copious?"

                Plus, you eat pretty much every two or so hours, right? Totally not what he's trying to achieve here. Maybe he's totally off base, but I would say he just needs more time to adjust. IFing can be useful although it's not for expecting immediate results from. Enter into it slowly and with caution would be my advice.
                I don't drink that much every day, and I never even mentioned coffee. I was just stating a fact regarding dizziness and not eating.

                I don't eat every 2 hours anymore, I usually hate eating, so I just eat bigger portions, rather than grazing. I just eat when I'm hungry. Isn't one facet to IF to get hunger under control?

                I wouldn't have made that statement about you Derp, but still... I don't think you are someone most people looking to go on Leangains would want to take advice from if they were aware of your daily consumption habits as in breakfasts of alcohol, tons of coffee, and sugar... and playing with strange supps.
                I don't agree with it, or like it, but I know about the principals of fasting from reading about it. Figured I'd contribute. Who the advice comes from shouldn't really make much difference, unless I posted something really outlandish, which I don't think I did here.

                Oh, and I also did stints of fasting for a while, both intentionally, and unintentionally.

                The things my two friends Drumroll and Paleobird repeatedly say about me in every thread I post in is irrelevant unless I actually advocate them.
                Last edited by Derpamix; 06-08-2013, 10:56 AM.
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                • #9
                  Thanks both of you.

                  Yeah, I just jumped into it by doing immediately 16 hour fasts. I'll take one day break and then try again.

                  I don't know what the "electrolytes" are. I just drink water and one cup of black coffee in the morning.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Nursultan Tuyakbay View Post
                    Thanks both of you.

                    Yeah, I just jumped into it by doing immediately 16 hour fasts. I'll take one day break and then try again.

                    I don't know what the "electrolytes" are. I just drink water and one cup of black coffee in the morning.
                    Electrolytes are sodium, potassium, and magnesium.

                    You have to keep them in balance. You lose them every time you take a piss, or sweat, or cry etc.

                    You need a bit more electrolytes on a low-carb diet. And you need to keep the ratio balanced too. Try to eat at least twice (preferably even more) potassium than you do sodium each day. Also, IFing and/or low carbing tends to increase overall need for electrolytes due to a sort of natural "diuretic" effect of the diet.
                    "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                    • #11
                      Coffee on an empty stomach is going to make dizziness worse, it may be your only problem even. Electrolytes in question are potassium, magnesium and sodium.
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                      • #12
                        And yes Derp, getting hunger under control is but one (of many) reasons people might try IFing.

                        I gotta say, not being in the kitchen multiple times a day worrying about food sure is glorious.
                        "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                          Coffee on an empty stomach is going to make dizziness worse, it may be your only problem even. Electrolytes in question are potassium, magnesium and sodium.
                          Caffeine on an empty stomach never bothered me. I guess I just have a stomach of steel though.
                          "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Drumroll View Post
                            Caffeine on an empty stomach never bothered me. I guess I just have a stomach of steel though.
                            Nor I, but I think we just have a higher tolerance than most people.
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                            • #15
                              Thanks for the clarification.

                              I have some substitute salt with 1/3 sodium chloride and 2/3 potassium chloride? Is that good balance or should I just use sea salt? I'll start using some more of it on food.

                              I'll try without coffee then...

                              I supplement magnesium citrate, calcium/mag/zinc combo, vit D, and multivit.

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