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  • Meticulous for 6 weeks... Still not fat adapted! Help!

    Hoping for some help...

    I jumped on the primal bandwagon a little more than 6 weeks ago after reading all the research, seeing the light and deciding evolution probably knew what it was doing... and have thrown myself into it with gusto. When I do something, I like to do it all the way, so I've been meticulous. For the last 6 weeks, my macronutrient ratio has continually been 60-65% fat, 30-35% protein and ~5% carbs. I know this is a bit low on the carbs, but I'd heard the best way to jump-start the fat-burning machinery was to put your body into temporary ketosis and then add them back in. I track everything on MyFitnessPal (love this app), right down to the carbs in my instant coffee and vitamins, so I know I'm not getting any hidden sugars in my diet. I've completely eliminated all sugars (refined, honey and the like) and grains, so all my carbs are from veggies.

    On the positive side, my sweet tooth (which used to be horrendous) is all but gone, I don't have cravings, I can easily go without eating for 5-6 hours without being hungry, and I'm genuinely enjoying what I'm eating. I've also lost extra fat, which is always an added bonus (all while eating a healthy 1500-1800 calories a day). All in all, I'm a happy girl.

    Only downside is that I'm still feeling some of those lingering "carb flu" symptoms. I still get light headed, and my limbs feel heavy and weak. It's not constant, but it's not negligible either. Is there something I'm missing? Any suggestions are very welcome... Besides this, I'm loving the lifestyle and want to keep it up!

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    Experiment. See what happens if you increase carbs a bit.
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    • #3
      It just takes some people longer to fully adapt than others. I would say the OP is on the right track and just needs to give it a little more time.

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      • #4
        So you've got the carb flu for longer than most. Everything else looks great, there's no test for fat adaptation as far as I know...I'm not quite understanding what you're aiming for? More energy? Ketosis?
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        • #5
          Same situation for my wife - she had intense carb craving for about 10 weeks. She lost ~ 10 pound slowly; went from size 6 to zero in less than a year -- not sedentary, but no exercise other than chasing 3 small kids and walking to dozens of meetings per week on large campus.

          Women are different than men. Focus on how your clothing fits more than the number on a scale; ketosis induced deep sleep and vivid dreams for me and my wife.

          Experiment slightly, you should be close.

          try eating more fat temporarily; keep carbs around 20 per day a few weeks

          Eat butter more often ; consider coconut or MCT oil to form more ketones

          Eat something every 3 or 4 hr while awake to keep insulin spikes down / minimize cravings.

          Once fat adapted, I usually only eat twice a day now.

          Enjoy

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          • #6
            Could it be electrolyte related? There are some threads on here about not feeling great low carb (mostly during exercise) that was helped with changes in sodium, potassium, magnesium, etc.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Deadpedal View Post
              Same situation for my wife - she had intense carb craving for about 10 weeks. She lost ~ 10 pound slowly; went from size 6 to zero in less than a year -- not sedentary, but no exercise other than chasing 3 small kids and walking to dozens of meetings per week on large campus.

              Women are different than men. Focus on how your clothing fits more than the number on a scale; ketosis induced deep sleep and vivid dreams for me and my wife.

              Experiment slightly, you should be close.

              try eating more fat temporarily; keep carbs around 20 per day a few weeks

              Eat butter more often ; consider coconut or MCT oil to form more ketones

              Eat something every 3 or 4 hr while awake to keep insulin spikes down / minimize cravings.

              Once fat adapted, I usually only eat twice a day now.

              Enjoy

              Thanks for the helpful suggestions. I was just a little concerned after reading that it taking only 10 days for most people to adapt that I might be doing something wrong, and wanted to make sure something else wasn't going on. It's good to know that other people (like your wife) took longer to adapt too. Keeping my fingers crossed for that great energy levels that everybody raves about!

              Thanks again

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kmilloy View Post
                I was just a little concerned after reading that it taking only 10 days for most people to adapt
                According to Phinney and Volek, it takes about 4 to 6 weeks on average ...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by lorichka6 View Post
                  Could it be electrolyte related? There are some threads on here about not feeling great low carb (mostly during exercise) that was helped with changes in sodium, potassium, magnesium, etc.
                  Thanks for the suggestion... I had read about the importance of keeping your sodium (due to the water loss) so I've been adding salt, and I'm taking a multivitamin/mineral, but after looking at it, it doesn't have much potassium, so that could definitely be a contributor! Thanks again, I will add that in ASAP

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                  • #10
                    Oh, no sure not 10 days for me! Was more like 2 months or maybe a little more.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the replies! Always reassuring to know you're on the right side of normal

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by lorichka6 View Post
                        Could it be electrolyte related? There are some threads on here about not feeling great low carb (mostly during exercise) that was helped with changes in sodium, potassium, magnesium, etc.
                        This... espically magnesium

                        Also you are staving you floral with no starch, your gut bacteria is 80% of your immune system

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                        • #13
                          The sodium recommendation for someone eating VLC is 5000mg sodium / day. One Tsp of salt only has about 2400mg of sodium.
                          Up the sodium. It will make a huge difference in how you feel. Some people choose to drink 1-2 cups of bouillon / day to hit the sodium level, but there are unwanted ingredients in most brands.

                          Or up the carbs to 50+
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                          • #14
                            Those symptoms aren't "carb flu"(seriously who coined this stupid phrase?) that's your blood sugar being on a rollercoaster due to low carbs and spurring your fight or flight hormones.
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                            • #15
                              Sorry, you'll have to filter out the sugar bugs. J3nn, Derpamix, Zach and a few others think candy = health, and push their glucose-loving ways on people truly interested in being fat-fueled.

                              It took me six weeks to get fat adapted, where I could drink a stick of butter and have it all digest properly, etc. But this
                              (all while eating a healthy 1500-1800 calories a day)
                              has me worried. I hope you're about 4 feet tall. Eat more, that might help!

                              x2 about electrolytes.
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