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  • no sugar OR starch. So where do i get my carbs from??

    All these anti inflammatory diets suggests no sugar (which rule out all fruits right?) and no starch. So where can i find 100g of carbs per day? I thought sugar and starch where the only two sources of carbs.

    And Im not interested in eating 40 pounds of some weird Himalayan flowers per day or something like that. Something practical.

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    non starchy vegetables, which anti inflammatory diet are you intending- some include fruits
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    • #3
      You can get plenty of carbs from nuts, vegetables and low sugar fruit such as berries. And the primal diet includes taters, tapioca, though most of us eshew the skin.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Egerland View Post
        You can get plenty of carbs from nuts, vegetables and low sugar fruit such as berries. And the primal diet includes taters, tapioca, though most of us eshew the skin.
        yes i eat alot of tapioca. would hate to give that up.


        OK.. so when someone says "no sugar", berries and low sugar fruits are still considered tolerated??

        Can you please give an example of a vegetable high in carbs but no starch or sugars?

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        • #5
          What diet is this that said no starch or sugars? Did they really mean absolutely none? Because there is a whole world of healthy fruits, roots and tubers that can be eaten that are not going to trigger inflammation.
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          • #6
            doing the autoimmune paleo protocol. now considering the gaps diet on top of that. The Five Most Common GAPS Diet Mistakes

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            • #7
              I'm doing it too. And you are right it is hard to find enough carbs. A lot of the things people are suggesting are either nightshades (potatoes) or starch (I hate tell you but tapioca is pure starch). From what I understand certain fruits are allowed but they must be fully ripe for example bananas, pears and apples. Of course you can eat berries but that won't get you very far in terms of carbs or satisfying hunger. I've been eating sweet potatoes which everyone seems to love but w/o butter I can't really get that excited about them.

              Recently I made a mash of celery root and carrot that was pretty good. First I saute the carrot and celery root in lard (I have some I rendered from our own hog) then I add chicken broth (homemade) and a couple of whole cloves of garlic, I then cook it until everything is tender, if there's still too much liquid I take the top off and evaporate the excess. Then of course I mash the whole thing and add salt.

              How long have you been on the protocol? I'm just about 2 weeks in (doing it for Hashimoto's so I'm not having goitrogenic foods either) and I'm finding it very limiting. I'm often hungry and since I'm not actively trying to lose weight I'm not that keen on feeling hungry. I'm getting tired of coconut in all it's forms.
              Last edited by Urban Forager; 05-28-2013, 11:38 AM.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by JohanJohan View Post
                All these anti inflammatory diets suggests no sugar (which rule out all fruits right?) and no starch. So where can i find 100g of carbs per day? I thought sugar and starch where the only two sources of carbs.

                And Im not interested in eating 40 pounds of some weird Himalayan flowers per day or something like that. Something practical.
                Veggies.

                Depending on your goals, you can still eat some rice or sweet potatoes or something. Starch won't hurt.
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                • #9
                  Carrots, parsnips, turnips, rutabagas, celery, celery root, onions, brussels sprouts, cabbage or sauerkraut, cauliflour, beets, greens (mustard, collards, kale, beet, dandelion, etc).
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                  • #10
                    Avocado. That's non-sweet, non-starchy responce to fiber and carb needs.
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                    • #11
                      A lot of the suggestions are not part of the autoimmune protocol or GAPS. Avocadoes are okay.

                      It would be good to hear from some folks who have done these diets.

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                      • #12
                        banana (my favorite) & fibrous veggies.. no "sugar" isn't necessarily talking about fruit.. fruit can be broken into sub-groups.. There are some vary sugar & high glycemix fruits like watermelon which you should avoid, & low glycemic fruits such as berries, apples & pears which won't stimulate your insulin response as "sugar" does..

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                        • #13
                          Vegetables.

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                          • #14
                            I was on GAPS for about 4 months (got pregnant and couldn't eat enough while being strictly GAPS--meat made me nauseous--so I had to stop). The main thing with GAPS is absolutely no grains or starches (no sweet potato, potato, arrowroot, rice, beans, etc), and eating fruit separate from the meats. Meats and sugars are digested differently, and to digest the sugars they have to be digested separately, or they inflame the gut and feed bad bacteria/yeast. Veggies can be eaten with the meat, since they have enzymes that help break down the food.

                            You also get a lot of carbs from lacto-fermented foods, like pickles and sauerkraut (you want ones that are fermented, not in vinegar. Bubbies makes lacto-fermented foods), as well as homemade yogurt, kefeir, etc.

                            Here's the website I learned most everything on: The Diet. I never actually got around to reading the book, but I'm sure it explains things more thoroughly than the website does.

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                            • #15
                              I get ALL of my carbs from non-starchy carbohydrates! Spinach, green beans, sea vegetables, spaghetti squash, butter lettuce, leeks, etc... It's definitely possible!

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