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  • #31
    Well I used my birthday money to order a comprehensive thyroid panel. I'm planning to attempt simple Paleo on Monday.
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    • #32
      Here are my results:
      Thyroxine (T4) Free, Direct, S T4,Free(Direct) 1.24 Range .82-1.77
      TSH TSH .643 Range .450-4.5
      Reverse T3, Serum Reverse T3, Serum 12.7 Range 9.2-24.1
      Thyroxine (T4) Thyroxine (T4) 8.8 Range 4.5-12.0
      Thyroid Peroxidase (TPO) Ab Thyroid Peroxidase (TPO) Ab 8 Range 0-34
      Antithyroglobulin Ab Antithyroglobulin Ab < 20 Range 0-40
      Triiodothyronine,Free,Serum Triiodothyronine,Free,Serum 2.8 Range 2.0 - 4.4


      It seems things are within normal ranges. Anybody else see anything concerning? Maybe this rules out the thyroid issue?
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      • #33
        Looks OK to me, but I'm more of the mind that anything that was out of order there was simply a downstream effect of something you would have to change via lifestyle anyhow (read not a fan of hormone therapy).

        Anyhow yeah, when I saw "simple paleo" I was just thinking "no grains, no legumes, no dairy..." as thats how Robb Wolf always explained it. Yours is definitely a guynett thing which is all based on his food reward hypothesis. Good luck with it! I couldn't do bland foods as an approach to health. My version of healthy eating always assumes flavor as an indicator of high nutrition in the meal. Like a long simmered stew with plenty of herbs and seasonings....

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        • #34
          While I think "Simple Paleo" would work great, I think it would be VERY hard to stick to.

          What makes Primal palatable for most is that added fat and salt is NOT shunned. A potato without butter is okay, but not very appetizing. A potato with butter and salt is as tasty as anything on earth. (imo).

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          • #35
            Exactly. It is only a temporary approach to lower the fat set point. The idea is to do it until you've reset what your body defends. Asking Chris Kresser about it, he recommends salt to taste and one spice. I made a huge batch of beef stew and have been eating that. It tastes good, but it doesn't seem to trigger me to over eat. It's not as exciting as something more complicated with more flavors and yet it's kind of nice not coming up with a bunch of different meals. My kids disagree. They will not be thrilled with stew again tonight, but they will eat if they are hungry.
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            • #36
              so are you trying this because your weight loss efforts have stalled? have you considered the fact that you're still eating too much? that would seem like the most obvious answer to me. do you track your food intake at all?

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              • #37
                Yes. My weight loss has stalled for two years. Yes I realize it could be calorie intake. The thing that complicates things is that I have high cortisol and thus any major calorie restriction which creates hunger also creates a stress response which then increases cortisol which then negates my efforts to lose because my body goes into storage mode. The idea of eliminating food reward is a way to spontaneously reduce calories while my body/brain does not feel hunger. I have tried primal calorie restriction, but it does not work in my situation.
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                • #38
                  Yes I track. I have a journal on here too. I'm 5'3" female and was eating 1800-1900 cal with CrossFit style workouts. Since starting the simple approach I am coming in around 1600. It may reduce more, but I am focusing on nourishing simple foods.
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                  Current: 155 - size 10/12
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                  • #39
                    high cortisol based on what? stressful family? career? crossfit workouts? I mean, if you could eliminate or reduce your stress response, that would probably be ideal for any number of reasons. then the weight loss might continue. that's probably the problem anyway

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                    • #40
                      I took a saliva test which showed my cortisol is ok in the morning but does not drop like it should by bedtime. My NP said this is consistent with someone with polycystic ovarian syndrome. I have been addressing this issue with changing the kind of and frequency of workouts. I have added a couple supplements to help me adapt to stress better. I have also begun yoga and breathing exercises.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Momto3 View Post
                        I took a saliva test which showed my cortisol is ok in the morning but does not drop like it should by bedtime. My NP said this is consistent with someone with polycystic ovarian syndrome. I have been addressing this issue with changing the kind of and frequency of workouts. I have added a couple supplements to help me adapt to stress better. I have also begun yoga and breathing exercises.
                        I see. there are some threads on mda about dealing with pcos and pcos-like symptoms. i'm sure there might be some helpful info for you in them

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                        • #42
                          I once watched a video of a morbidly obese woman giving weight gain advice: "fry everything, cover it in sauces, and keep switching between salty and sweet so you can keep eating."

                          That really got to me. I now get very turned off now by many hyperpalatable foods, I don't associate it with paleo/primal. When I go out to eat I avoid sauces, cheeses, and too much food combining. I used to cheat with fried foods (like a fried shrimp in my sushi), but I avoid that completely now.

                          I think it helps immensely with digestion, bloating, and overall wellness. You're not tempted to eat more. I listened to a Chris Kresser podcast though and somewhere in it he's mentioned the research supports that low palatable foods are no more beneficial than moderately palatable foods. So sometimes you'll still catch me eating potato chips, but I wash it down with water and there's no flavoring...just salt. I don't overeat those kinds of things.

                          It's a weird balance. I try my best to pick foods that I feel are simpler and do not trigger any overeating symptoms, and I think it's a great tool. It keeps me on track.

                          Thanks for that WHS link. I liked the guy who had to ditch diet coke, although I wonder if removing diet coke would've been the ticket. I'm sure both helped. He explained he was ravenous after removing it. I have diet coke problems (weening off!) and that might explain some random hunger! DC is my final vice.

                          I'm considering simplifying my food even further, and if I do, I'll let you guys know about it.
                          Last edited by kcarol; 06-08-2013, 08:45 AM.

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