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  • Americans Truly Think Drugs are the Answer?

    It's really mind blowing.

    Many people I know in the United States, despite being smart people who should know better, are taking drugs to solve their problems (and of course it's not working).

    It seems like eventually most people there go this route. Didn't they see the movie? You eat the food present in the environment, it makes you sick and depressed, you go see the doctor, he gives you the drug, it makes it worse, so you take more drugs, there are drug interactions, everyone collects loads of profit, and then you die.

    The doctor is not your friend. These people have no idea what these drugs do nor how they work, they are stumbling around in the dark, testing on humans, and getting perks from the drug companies.

    Seriously what are people thinking.

  • #2
    It's freaking rampant. It seems like half our commercials are things like "I noticed I was being really moody and irritable around my husband and children. Rather than dealing with any underlying behavioral, cognitive, or nutritional issues to fix this, I saw a doctor and demanded that he write me a prescription for Bitchaphol. It masks everything and we get along almost all the time now! Ask your doctor how it can sort of work for you!" [remainder of commercial is warnings and side effects]

    My undergrad degree is in psychology, and this stuff pisses me the hell off. People are idiots.

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    • #3
      And don't forget the list of side affects that's longer than my arm. Why would I want to take a drug for high blood pressure that'll make me impotent, a little blue pill to correct the issue caused by the first pill and might make me go blind or a sleeping pill that may cause drowsiness? GMAFB!

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      • #4
        It shocks me that America allows advertising for prescription drugs and they make the adverts appealing. It makes people want drugs for things they don't really suffer from.

        I was really stunned the day before yesterday by a guy who posted on the forum that he was concerned by a hs-CRP test result that was 5.8. Here in the UK under 10 is normal.

        I was really bemused when someone posted about it being used as a cardiac diagnostic too where a value of 2 indicates increased risk. Here its classed as a clinically worthless tool unless used to monitor fast moving infection.

        I read some European research and then some from the USA . The USA seems orientated purely to get more people on statins and into cardiac programmes most of them don't need. we all know how bad the side effects of statins are and new research implicates some of the biggest names in the development of diabetes. One of them apparently creates a new case in each 160 patients. Americans pay through the nose for medical care and paying for shit you don't need seems criminal
        Last edited by CarbDodger; 05-25-2013, 03:18 PM.
        When I'd had enough of the grain and starched based 'diabetic eating for health' diet (eating for health, my ass!) my weight was 242.5 lbs. On starting primal- 18th April 2013 weight : 238.1.
        27th July 2013. weight after 100 days 136.9 weight lost 101.2lb ; that's 105.6lbs since I stopped the 'diabetic eating for health'
        new journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ml#post1264082

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        • #5
          I think it's important to note that nowadays people are sometimes getting started on drugs before they have a choice in the matter (i.e. minors). By the time they're old enough to make their own decisions on the topic, they can't think straight and/or are addicted. Of course, that raises the question of why the parents are getting the children on the drugs.

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          • #6
            and Castle did you know very few drugs are tested on kids, the parents do it for the drug companies without any of the controls, restraints or follow up that a proper clinical trial gets. A child's neural network doesn't mature till at least 15- they aren't stable adults yet they get all this untested stuff. Its fair enough if a kid is really sick or dying and benefits outweigh risks but otherwise its abuse
            When I'd had enough of the grain and starched based 'diabetic eating for health' diet (eating for health, my ass!) my weight was 242.5 lbs. On starting primal- 18th April 2013 weight : 238.1.
            27th July 2013. weight after 100 days 136.9 weight lost 101.2lb ; that's 105.6lbs since I stopped the 'diabetic eating for health'
            new journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ml#post1264082

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            • #7
              It pisses me off when they drug high energy kids. When I was a kid.... I ran around outside all day. We had outside recess 2 times a day at school. We burned off steam. It's not really natural for kids to want to sit on their ass all day.

              I've never taken "meds" and haven't seen an MD for something like 10 years. I remember the last time really well.... I went to get a tetanus booster required by grad school. They sent me home with prescriptions for allergy meds and heartburn meds. Ummm... I didn't come with any complaints. They saw my red eyes (yeah, one week a year I get itchy eyes from pollen) and kept asking me if I had issues so I mentioned very occasional heart burn.

              And yeah.... the advertisements drive me nuts.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                It pisses me off when they drug high energy kids. When I was a kid.... I ran around outside all day. We had outside recess 2 times a day at school. We burned off steam. It's not really natural for kids to want to sit on their ass all day.
                I've had this conversation with a few people. I think the other issue is that a lot of parents are older and don't have the energy to "chase" a small child, so want him/her diagnosed with something. Or, if the parents are young both typically need to work and don't have the energy needed when they get home. I'm super lucky being 30 with a 5 and nearly 3 yo who get to spend countless hours at the park, in physical activities, or just playing in the yard. I wonder a bit how they will fare once they start school. But we will not medicating our children at all.

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                • #9
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSJ8tvdM-FM

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNuDJddS4EE

                  'Nuff said.
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                  "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                  • #10
                    I think there's a small percentage of kids/young adults who could benefit from some medication (I'm talking the big-time, potential serial killer psychotropic issues). But that percentage is SMALL. VERY VERY SMALL. We're definitely overmedicating kids.

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                    • #11
                      I admit it must be harder for parents now, when i was a kid, admittedly we're talking a long time ago, when i was off school Id get up in a morning bursting to go out, while we were eating breakfast mom or nan would pack us lunch, we'd tell her our agenda with the i might go here kid stuff' and she'd tell us to be home by 4:30 and off we'd go. Many parents now wouldnt feel comfortable doing that now. In England councils dont want kids climbing trees or going near water. Its got to be hard being a kid now.
                      When I'd had enough of the grain and starched based 'diabetic eating for health' diet (eating for health, my ass!) my weight was 242.5 lbs. On starting primal- 18th April 2013 weight : 238.1.
                      27th July 2013. weight after 100 days 136.9 weight lost 101.2lb ; that's 105.6lbs since I stopped the 'diabetic eating for health'
                      new journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ml#post1264082

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                      • #12
                        The problem is the same in the UK. A sudden explosion of children being diagniosed as having 'ADHD' and being given a drug called Ritalin, which is a stimulant, in order to make them concentrate on things such as schoolwork. Schools now have more difficulty teaching children who are of course mostly eating more processed foods and sugars, especially HFCS, but probably a whole host of chemicals that 20 years ago were not present in our diet. Where children come from slightly more affluent backgrounds, parents tend to make better food choices and the levels of classroom disruption will be lower, which is not to say that the classroom system is ideal for a human being, but clearly indicates where the problem lies. The chef Jamie Oliver has done about as much as is humanly possible to campaign on this issue and is to be commended. Despite what he has acheived its still widespread practice to medicate children. In our culture in general is would be taboo to approach a child's parent and question them on what the child is being fed, even as a medical professional, so they are being given medication instead.

                        Hopefully in the future culture changes will allow a more realistic treatment of a child's behaviour which is centered around diet as the first consideration.

                        I disagree that the medical profession is completely corrupt and to blame, we need to draw a distinction between their ability to treat 'communicable' illness such as diseases and viruses, which clearly they do well, and their faliure to treat 'non-communicable' diseases such as heart disease, diabetes, depression, etc which are the longer term conditions more related to what we consume as a society.
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                        • #13
                          As they say...follow the money.
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                          • #14
                            My maternal grandparents were among the original "health nuts." They subscribed to Prevention magazine and took supplements before it became commonplace. My grandfather claimed that vitamin e cured his angina. He also grew his own vegetables well into his 80s. My grandmother died at 91 although her last years were not good due to heart problems and my grandfather died at 98. He missed my grandmother terribly and so his last years were not good either.

                            Anyway as a result of my grandparents and their influence, my parents also take supplements and refuse to take statins. They are both 80 this year. My mother was on an osteoporosis drug and stopped taking it when she found out it wasn't effective. She is having health issues, but it is related to nerve damage on her spine and is not able to get around well. My Dad started running at the age of 57 and still does, though he has more walking intervals.

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                            • #15
                              ADHD. My one son-in-law was hyperactive as a child, in fact he still can't sit still. His doctor put him on Ritalin. He hated it and stopped taking it as a teenager. He and my daughter have a son (7) and a daughter (3) who both show hyperactivity. Because of problems at school, my grandson takes Intuniv. It does help, but he still gets into trouble when he gets bored.

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