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  • #16
    I'm glad this worked so well for you, but it's not this easy for everyone. For every post like this, there are 10 wondering why they've lost no weight in weeks...
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Annieh View Post
      This makes so much sense to me.
      Yes the explanation is simple and makes sense - this is how it seems to work for me.

      Processed crap = hunger and fat weight gain (stopped that rubbish a long time ago).

      When lifting weights and eating primal only I leaned out and now can only put on very little weight even though my I have intentionally increased calories by up to 25% to increase muscle - small/slow weight increase is mostly muscle (hard work though ) .

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Damiana View Post
        I'm glad this worked so well for you, but it's not this easy for everyone. For every post like this, there are 10 wondering why they've lost no weight in weeks...
        I suspect far more people find success and have no need to post asking for help than is apparent from comparing post numbers.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Nivanthe View Post
          You're forgetting about grains causing bloat and water weight/retention.

          The "effortless" for most people starts when they take grains out of the picture. Water weight is shed quickly and therefore they're more motivated to continue, they don't crave as much -- I know I personally, can double the amount I usually eat if I start with something bready first -- and therefore will "effortlessly" be eating less, and lose the weight.
          Yeah I think when you first cut out processed foods the first thing you probably shed is water weight. I've noticed when I pig out on junk food (typically carby things) the scale will go up as much as 3 pounds the next day! I know its not fat, because when I go back to eating primal the scale will go down by as much as a pound a day throughout the week until I'm back to my starting weight. Its not likely I'm gaining 3 pounds of fat in one day (hopefully not lol) and then losing a pound of fat everyday.

          When I lost the 6 pounds though it was definately more than just water weight. My clothes were loser and my body fat went down.

          I agree about not craving as much too when eating primal food and that definately helps! Maybe its all the protein, but the meals just seem more satisfying and filling then high carbohydrate ones.

          I was eating around 80g of carbs a day when I was losing weight.

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          • #20
            No, weight loss has never been effortless for me, regardless of the quality of food, macros or exercise program. It is always about calorie counting and tricking hunger. Effortless weight loss is a miracle that happens to other people.
            Last edited by Leida; 05-27-2013, 06:21 AM.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by FoodLoveJoy View Post
              My 2 cents:

              Focus more on eating foods that make your body feel good an hour two after having eaten them. When you keep your focus on eating things that keep you feeling good, your body should naturally start to gravitate toward a weight that's good for your frame.

              Giving all the power to what your scale says makes it a lot harder to get to where you want to be. If you're eating in a way that makes you feel great all the time, does it really matter what the number is?
              Wow.... I'd live on Jack Daniels then!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                I suspect far more people find success and have no need to post asking for help than is apparent from comparing post numbers.
                Definitely this. Forums are a terrific microcosm of the people with the biggest health problems having the hardest time acclimating to what is generally the "human diet".

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                • #23
                  If you're eating in a way that makes you feel great all the time, does it really matter what the number is?
                  Yes, though not the number, but the mirror. You can feel great, but seeing fat bulges everywhere and not fitting into your own clothes hardly sets you up for happiness
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
                    Wow.... I'd live on Jack Daniels then!
                    Yep, let's do the Jack Daniels diet!

                    One bottle of JD = 1.960 kcal,
                    3 cans of tuna in water = 360 kcal,
                    green vegetables = 150 kcal,
                    one cup of bulletproof coffee with 1/2 stick of butter = 400 kcal.

                    Total: 2,870 kcal, protein = 120 gr, fat = 40 gr, carbs = 30 gr, alchohol = 280 gr(!)

                    So, if you are a big guy over 200 pound, start with one bottle of JD per day and reduce to 3/4 of a bottle after a while when stalling. a ligthweight woman can start with 1/2 a bottle and 2 cans of tuna and use 1/4 of a stick of butter, when doing the Jack Daniels diet...
                    Last edited by Gorbag; 05-27-2013, 09:51 AM.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                      Yep, let's do the Jack Daniels diet!

                      One bottle of JD = 1.960 kcal,
                      3 cans of tuna in water = 360 kcal,
                      green vegetables = 150 kcal,
                      one cup of bulletproof coffee with 1/2 stick of butter = 400 kcal.

                      Total: 2,870 kcal, protein = 120 gr, fat = 40 gr, carbs = 30 gr, alchohol = 280 gr(!)

                      So, if you are a big guy over 200 pound, start with one bottle of JD per day and reduce to 3/4 of a bottle after a while when stalling. a ligthweight woman can start with 1/2 a bottle and 2 cans of tuna and use 1/4 of a stick of butter, when doing the Jack Daniels diet...
                      I've been drinking Bulletproof Jack during my fasts every morning. Makes me feel AWESOME.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by peppermint View Post
                        I've been drinking Bulletproof Jack during my fasts every morning. Makes me feel AWESOME.
                        The combination of fat and alchohol gives a "slow relase effect" of the alchohol that is very nice for most people! Not a bad idea drinking "enhanced" bulletproof coffee, and if you are in a calorie deficit you will sure lose weight! Bodycomposition is a bit more unsure on the Jack Daniels diet, so maybe somebody should test it and see what the result might be?
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                        • #27
                          whose going to be the guinea pig?
                          When I'd had enough of the grain and starched based 'diabetic eating for health' diet (eating for health, my ass!) my weight was 242.5 lbs. On starting primal- 18th April 2013 weight : 238.1.
                          27th July 2013. weight after 100 days 136.9 weight lost 101.2lb ; that's 105.6lbs since I stopped the 'diabetic eating for health'
                          new journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ml#post1264082

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                          • #28
                            Base your diet on two things:

                            1.) Nutrient density of food.
                            2.) Toxin load of food.

                            Just because a food is a grain doesn't mean it's bad. Just because a food is a legume doesn't mean it's bad. Just because it's an animal product doesn't make it good. Not everything ancient is good and not everything neolithic is bad.

                            Nutrient density is the most important. Many modern ailments are caused by our modern low-nutrient diets. This automatically eliminates grains, refined sugars and refined fats from the diet. They are high calorie and low nutrient, which overtime could cause health impacts. Primal/paleo does it right by eliminating grains and refined sugars, but they make a huge mistake with the refined fats. Virgin coconut oil is essentially white sugar. There is no nutrient difference. It's high calorie, low nutrient man-made stuff. They both serve their purpose as sort of a topping or cooking tool when used responsibly with minimal caloric impact (1 teaspoon of sugar in your coffee, 1-2 teaspoons of oil to sear meats), but when you start taking a spoon to a jar of oil or eating slices of butter and blending it in your coffee, you may as well take a spoon to a sugar bag. It isn't much different.

                            Toxic foods are a no-no as well. This eliminates the gluten grains, polyunsaturated seed oils, soy, GMO's...you're probably aware of this list.

                            If it's nutritious and low in toxins, eat it I say. It doesn't matter if it's neolithic or primal. Nutrients are nutrients, and if you can get lots of them with minimal toxins from whole foods, you'll be set.
                            Last edited by ChocoTaco369; 05-27-2013, 09:11 PM.
                            Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                            • #29
                              The food we take should be of all necessary ingredients such as proteins, nutrients, carbohydrates should be properly maintained in diet,The food we choose must be a part of the diet. The best solution for the weight loss problem is to perform exercise regularly and avoid eating junk foods, Proper plan for diet should be followed to get rid of the problem. The drugs may be harmful to the body it their usage is extreme.

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                              • #30
                                Base your diet on two things:

                                1.) Nutrient density of food.
                                2.) Toxin load of food.
                                I think this plus a realistic weight goal and a realistic decision on how long it will take to get there is CRITICAL. I was talking to a fitness competitor who spent much time well below the 20% body fat that people think is "fit". She mentioned most of those women have issues with pregnancy. We pondered that overweight women don't have the same struggle. I have no idea what she did to get where she got, but imagine a heaping helping of genetics plus diet, plus a lot of working out (she had surgeries for injuries).

                                I feel like if a reasonable consumption of clean foods does not yield the weight loss you want, either 1. you are trying to go too low and need to join the work out a ton and eat weird shit club to push your body to an unnatural state. or 2. Have a medical issue or 3. need to be patient because losing a bunch of fat can take time.

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