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  • #16
    Meh, maybe it's just the in the individuals that I know who are alcoholics to not age well. *shrug*
    “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
    ~Friedrich Nietzsche
    And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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    • #17
      Are you guys serious? Iggy is old as hell and has a crazier life then we could dream and he still looks better then the average american. Durian Rider is the definition of lean. Yea he doesnt have a huge amount of muscle because he a long distance cycler and runner. He still walks around at like 6% bodyfat year round.

      Seriously so much hating going on.

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      • #18
        Iggy is not "old as hell"... he is 66.

        And I was defending him.

        If you want some young people who look beat the f*k up... look no further than the triathlete community.
        We have tons of them here in central FL... they are ultra lean, their faces all generally look a good 10 years older than they actually are. It's just a known thing... many of them will tell you themselves that what they do is not really necessarily a healthy whole body pursuit. It noticeably ages them.

        As a side note... Durian Rider looks nearly as old as Iggy to me... and that is sad.
        Maintaining a body fat as low as 6% should never be a goal for someone. Dude is slowly killing himself.
        Cutting to low bodyfat like that is for short term, not for living. And it shows.
        Last edited by cori93437; 05-24-2013, 12:36 PM.
        “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
        ~Friedrich Nietzsche
        And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Zach View Post
          Are you guys serious? Iggy is old as hell and has a crazier life then we could dream and he still looks better then the average american. Durian Rider is the definition of lean. Yea he doesnt have a huge amount of muscle because he a long distance cycler and runner. He still walks around at like 6% bodyfat year round.

          Seriously so much hating going on.
          I agree on Iggy Pop: aged badly for how he could have (without the drugs, alcohol or party lifestyle), but still better than the average person and aged quite well for how he treated his body. Same goes for Ozzy, actually: didn't age WELL per-se, but did well for how he treated himself.
          The problem with Harley is that he's reduced himself to his basic muscle and fat and his skin and face are aging very rapidly. A healthy human needs a bit more fat (at least some of the year, if not all of it) and some more muscle. He's not truly emaciated, but not far from it and is slowly losing even more mass. His face looks like that of a drug-user, something you DON'T see in him pre-fruitarianism. When he was cooked vegan or even just raw vegan, he looked healthy and his age. Now he looks awful and definitely unhealthy.
          The man is over 1.8m and only weighs as much as I do, ffs!
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          • #20
            Fruitarianism in combination with lots of coffee and cigarettes, lack of sleep, running triathlon, a bottle of whiskey a day and some nasty drugs in between, would that do the work?
            Last edited by Gorbag; 05-24-2013, 12:51 PM.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Kegas76 View Post
              If you want a look like a skinny drug addict I'd say you want the Christian Bale plan: http://fitnessrevolutionrowlett.com/...-machinist.jpg
              Supposedly he ran a LOT to get ready for that role. Didn't eat much and ran a lot every day. So, there you go. Do that.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                Fruitarianism in combination with lots of coffee and cigarettes, lack of sleep, running triathlon, a bottle of whiskey a day and some nasty drugs in between, would that do the work?
                Yep. Just throw in alternating steroid and laxative use before going off them entirely and you'll be done!
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                I get blunter and more narcissistic by the day.
                I'd apologize, but...

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                • #23
                  Cori, 66 is pretty dang old. I think Iggy looks awesome for how much shit hes done in that amount of time. I see 50 year old obese, aged, bald people all the time who are far worse looking.

                  Durian looks fine to me, id guess his age at around 32-35 if id never met him. Yes without a layer of fat, faces will show more age. His skin is clear and his body looks strong. Hes in way better shape then most around here whether you care to believe it or not. And no, walking around that lean year round is not detrimental for everyone. Many cultures, that is the norm. Thailand and philippines for example.
                  Last edited by Zach; 05-24-2013, 12:59 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Meth is a great drug for making you look lots older, fast.

                    meth before and after - Google Search

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Kegas76 View Post
                      If you want to look like Iggy then you need to rock hard for 40 years.

                      If you want a look like a skinny drug addict I'd say you want the Christian Bale plan: http://fitnessrevolutionrowlett.com/...-machinist.jpg
                      This is what I was going to say. Supposedly he ate one apple per day and drank a lot of black coffee + cardio.
                      The above should be viewed as complete and utter nonsense.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Zach View Post
                        Cori, 66 is pretty dang old. I think Iggy looks awesome for how much shit hes done in that amount of time. I see 50 year old obese, aged, bald people all the time who are far worse looking.

                        Durian looks fine to me, id guess his age at around 32-35 if id never met him. Yes without a layer of fat, faces will show more age. His skin is clear and his body looks strong. Hes in way better shape then most around here whether you care to believe it or not. And no, walking around that lean year round is not detrimental for everyone. Many cultures, that is the norm. Thailand and philippines for example.
                        But, when you look at their skin and faces, they look healthier. His eyes are sunken, he shows signs of adrenal fatigue, his skin is loose and thin...etc He went downhill very quickly after cutting down to only fruit. Whenever I watch his videos, I find myself concerned for him. He looks like he's continually physically tired and mentally hyper. He's aged before his time, too.
                        Maybe he's OK as compared to some SAD people, but he looks old and unwell even for that, to me.
                        I'm also worried for what may happen to him in the future. His girlfriend is an example of what happens when you eat a fruitarian diet and don't exercise enough or eat enough (a breakdown of fruit-based macros imply you'd have to eat 6000kcal/day to meet every nutritional need, she only eats 3000-4000kcal/day). Harley eats enough to meet most of his micro-nutrients, but endurance athletes aren't well known for keeping it up past 50. Some do, yes, but the norm is knee and ankle degradation (from continual overload), heart problems and loss of energy. As he gets older, he'll be less able to keep up that level of activity, meaning he'll wind up eating less, meaning he'll start suffering deficiencies and his body will finish its process of wasting away. He's still losing fat and lean muscle as we speak. He may eat a bit more protein or fat at some point and gain some, but the general trend is wastage.

                        And it's not out of hatred: just confusion and concern. He DOES look like a substance-abuser and, if he carries on the way he's going, he WON'T be even remotely healthy for much longer.
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                        Perfection is entirely individual. Any philosophy or pursuit that encourages individuality has merit in that it frees people. Any that encourages shackles only has merit in that it shows you how wrong and desperate the human mind can get in its pursuit of truth.

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                        I get blunter and more narcissistic by the day.
                        I'd apologize, but...

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                        • #27
                          Mark Sisson looks about 10+ years older than he is to me.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Zach View Post
                            Cori, 66 is pretty dang old. I think Iggy looks awesome for how much shit hes done in that amount of time. I see 50 year old obese, aged, bald people all the time who are far worse looking.

                            Durian looks fine to me, id guess his age at around 32-35 if id never met him. Yes without a layer of fat, faces will show more age. His skin is clear and his body looks strong. Hes in way better shape then most around here whether you care to believe it or not. And no, walking around that lean year round is not detrimental for everyone. Many cultures, that is the norm. Thailand and philippines for example.
                            66 is not that old... seriously.
                            The bald/haired part is irrelevant as that can occur at pretty much any age from 20 on.
                            And I did attribute his aged facial appearance to living a very lean, active, outdoor(sun) filled life. Not just smoking/drinking.

                            And how old is DR?
                            I would have put him older than me from face pics, and I'm 40.(*edit: And thus hand out with MANY 35-45yr olds)
                            But that is par for the course with endurance type athletes (triathlon/iron-man folks) that I interact with here in FL.
                            Last edited by cori93437; 05-24-2013, 01:22 PM.
                            “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                            ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                            And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                              Mark Sisson looks about 10+ years older than he is to me.
                              When I first saw him (pre-Primal), I placed him as early forties, but was confused by the hair colour.
                              Similar for deVany: he was my introduction to Paleo. I was watching the seminar for the science (the title got me interested). I assumed he was in his 50s. Shocked to find out he was 70+!

                              The average 50-somethings I see typically look more like this:
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                              Perfection is entirely individual. Any philosophy or pursuit that encourages individuality has merit in that it frees people. Any that encourages shackles only has merit in that it shows you how wrong and desperate the human mind can get in its pursuit of truth.

                              --
                              I get blunter and more narcissistic by the day.
                              I'd apologize, but...

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                              • #30
                                @Cori: In the first photo I posted he's 33, in the second in his mid-20s.
                                He's currently 35.
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                                Perfection is entirely individual. Any philosophy or pursuit that encourages individuality has merit in that it frees people. Any that encourages shackles only has merit in that it shows you how wrong and desperate the human mind can get in its pursuit of truth.

                                --
                                I get blunter and more narcissistic by the day.
                                I'd apologize, but...

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