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  • Trying to help picky GF eat healthier, but she hates all vegetables...

    My girlfriend seems to have a lot of physical issues that seem to be related to inflammation, mostly shoulder and knee pain, headaches, etc. I'm not trying to convert her to paleo/primal, but just trying to help with some of the symptoms I've seen her deal with. She's been taking some fish oil, which has helped, but seems even reluctant to take a multi-vitamin even though she's obviously missing out on a lot of nutrients and minerals.

    I've been trying to get her to eat more vegetables when I cook for her, but she is set on not eating anything she thinks she wont like. 90% of her diet comes from chicken/pork/steak with a side of potatoes/rice/pasta/corn. The only green thing I've seen her eat is raw celery, cucumbers, and pistachios (she actually strained the broccoli out of a gravy her mother made for us).

    Breakfast is limited to pancakes only. Hates eggs, hates bread (ok with this), hates sweet potatoes, hates fish, hates crustaceans, hates salad, etc.

    I've cooked broccoli, cauliflower, carrots, kale with bacon. She has either refused to taste them, because she "knows" she doesn't like them, or eating one bite and no more. That's the diet she's always had, and she seems reluctant to change. I practically soaked some of the veggies in grass-fed butter and salt, her two favorite flavors, but she still didn't want to even try them. I have gotten her to try some new foods she had decided she doesn't like (lobster was the only thing she changed her mind on), but the veggies seem an even bigger hurdle.

    Curious to hear how other people have dealt with picky eaters like this, and what has worked for them in their efforts. For the moment, I'll be cutting up lots of raw celery and cucumbers...
    Last edited by Adwinistrator; 05-22-2013, 08:27 AM.

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    Stop trying to get her to eat things she doesn't "like". Unless her attitude changes, just present more of things that she likes that are healthy.

    If she is still eating pancakes with gluten, you could sub a gluten-free recipe.

    For many people who have major food aversions it goes back to control issues in their childhood, or may be a behavior pattern they learned from a family where everyone has lots of food aversions.
    Last edited by eKatherine; 05-22-2013, 08:40 AM.

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    • #3
      Have her read "Wheat Belly" should give her some reasons to at least drop the grains part of her Diet.... My wife has severe taste & texture issues but being in the fitness industry she gets the reasons just occasionally needs some relative reasons to try better choices

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      • #4
        Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
        Stop trying to get her to eat things she doesn't "like". Unless her attitude changes, just present more of things that she likes that are healthy.

        If she is still eating pancakes with gluten, you could sub a gluten-free recipe.

        For many people who have major food aversions it goes back to control issues in their childhood, or may be a behavior pattern they learned from a family where everyone has lots of food aversions.
        I agree with eKatherine, as usual.

        Just be a good example, enjoy real food in front of her, and let her come around in her own time. But don't listen to her whining about problems caused by factors she could change but refuses to.
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        • #5
          Plenty of high quality meat, some potatoes or white rice, and a bit of salad sounds like a fine diet to me.

          I would support her in getting the crap out, rather trying to add things she hates.

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          • #6
            Berries/fruit?
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            • #7
              Is she perhaps a supertaster? If she is, she may never come around. If not...

              How old is she? I have some experience with severe "veggie-aversion", as both my SO and best friend fall into that category. It is only now that they are both mid-30s that they are cautiously venturing into the realm of vegetables. Not sure where BF came by her issues, SO came about them due to one of those overbearing parents (stepfather in his case) who would make him sit for hours until he cleared his plate. Ugh, thanks dude, for making my life that much harder. He also had poor behavior modeled by his maternal grandfather, who to this day is a very rigid eater that the family bends over backward to cater to. Ex: We had a party where we had a local Mexican food restaurant cater. Family had to go and buy grandpa fast-food burgers because he refuses to touch Mexican food. Same when we had a local well-known BBQ joint cater. Grandpa brought his own McDonalds. These are not the only times this has happened. Blows my mind every time.

              Some things I have had some success with: Roasted butternut squash. Sweet potato fries (fried in bacon fat). Spaghetti squash. These are all things he actively likes and will request now. He has eaten more to varying degrees of success, including: brussels sprouts, eggplant, parsnips, kale, cauliflower, broccoli, carrots. We do eat a lot of potatoes, because he will always eat those and they are reasonably ok by primal standards. I usually make sure dinner includes a meat and approved starch for him, then I add in whatever veggies I feel like having on my own. Not ideal, but workable.

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              • #8
                Make some shepherd's pie for her: various vegetables (I mostly use onion, carrot and green beens) with ground meet at the bottom, mashed cauliflower on the top. Or perhaps half cauliflower and half potatoes at first so she does not recognize the cauliflower immediately. I use cauliflower only but add a pinch of curcuma to change the color so my husband thinks it is potatoes. Luckily, he eats plenty of raw vegetables but is not a big fan of cooked ones.

                Or Bolognese sauce? You can hide plenty of vegetables there.

                I agree with the suggestions above. For starters, instead of focusing on the good things she does not eat, help her ditch the bad ones she eats.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                  I agree with eKatherine, as usual.

                  Just be a good example, enjoy real food in front of her, and let her come around in her own time. But don't listen to her whining about problems caused by factors she could change but refuses to.
                  ^ This.

                  When my boyfriend starts whining about his feet I just ask him if he needs help making the appointment for amputation. If he's not willing to find a cure for what ails him, why should I do it for him?

                  Has your girlfriend tried the paleo almond butter/banana/egg pancakes yet?
                  Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                  • #10
                    Change girlfriends, or change your desire to change her. If you can live with her diet, fine. Stay. If you can't, walk. There's no future in you making her miserable and you being miserable, too.

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                    • #11
                      Who doesn't agree with eKatherine? She strides through the forums, flowers sprouting under her feet where she walks.

                      OP, you've correctly identified the 'problem' as being a lack of nutrients in your gf's diet. However, I think you're solving that problem in the wrong way. Vegetables are not very nutritious at all. The 'food group' you are missing is organ meats. Try the following sneaky things:

                      1. Have soups made with bone broths
                      2. Make steak-n-kidney pie, with heart as the 'steak' and kidney as the kidney.... use mashed potatoes as the pie topping.
                      3. Banana and Egg pancakes don't have the same structural integrity of conventional pancakes (we actually make them as muffins in a mold), but they taste better. Try making them with a 2-1 ratio of bananas to eggs, and see how she likes them

                      Other than that, work with what you have. Focus on cutting out inflammatory foods (flour, vegetable oils, sugar) and see how her tastes adjust.
                      Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

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                      • #12
                        This
                        Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                        Just be a good example, enjoy real food in front of her, and let her come around in her own time. But don't listen to her whining about problems caused by factors she could change but refuses to.
                        This
                        Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                        When my boyfriend starts whining about his feet I just ask him if he needs help making the appointment for amputation. If he's not willing to find a cure for what ails him, why should I do it for him?
                        and This
                        Originally posted by Green Deane View Post
                        Change girlfriends, or change your desire to change her. If you can live with her diet, fine. Stay. If you can't, walk. There's no future in you making her miserable and you being miserable, too.

                        Explain your position to her with regards to her health issues once, if she refuses to take the initiative herself, then let it go and do what you need to do.
                        "There are no short cuts to enlightenment, the journey is the destination, you have to walk this path alone"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Green Deane View Post
                          Change girlfriends, or change your desire to change her. If you can live with her diet, fine. Stay. If you can't, walk. There's no future in you making her miserable and you being miserable, too.
                          Best response yet.

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                          • #14
                            Only thing green my SO will eat is Kool-aid. Nothing you can do except get a good life insurance policy on them for when they finally realize their diet is killing them and it's too late. He thinks grass fed beef tastes funny and even refuses to eat it. Only thing "healthier" I have been able to get him to eat is pastured eggs. He's also lactose intolerant, dislikes the taste of chicken, and won't eat seafood so cooking can really be a chore.

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                            • #15
                              New girlfriend needed, problem solved and much quicker.


                              Excuse me for any typos and sarcastic remarks, sent from my iPhone using Marks Daily Apple Forum mobile app

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